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Post: #1   PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:05 am Reply with quote
Santorini Paul 1
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We sold our house in the UK and came to Cyprus on 29/8. Our surgery in the UK provided 3 months worth of prescriptions for my wife and I and said we could have no more from them. We asked about registering at my daughter's address in the UK and were told we need utility bills in our name at that address to do so. My tabs were free due to a long time medical condition and my wife's were free as she is a pensioner. We left it a month or so and have decided we want to stay here so my wife has applied for her S1, including me, from the UK and we have an appointment at immigration in February.
So we both now need to source tablets until such time as the paperwork is sorted. Can we just go to the hospital with our Ehics cards and get what we need... or what?
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Post: #2   PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:37 am Reply with quote
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Hi Paul - as far as I am aware you cannot use your EHIC cards for that as
it is intended for emergency treatment.

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Post: #3   PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 1:47 pm Reply with quote
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Take examples (The boxes)to a pharmacy. Often they will provide some. Failing that nip over to Famagusta and again most will dispenses them...and much cheaper. Anyone complaining about this should just admit its the truth so dont get bogged down with the "illegal" issues. They are the same meds in the same boxes just cheaper.

We had the same situation for some years when I stopped working here and because we were not of retirement age could not get meds. Many said use the kids address in UK or relyon your EHIC and say you are visiting but we were not happy with those choices.

Some conditions may dictate regular doctors check ups (Rheumatoid Arthritis and blood pressure pills are examples) but that has never stopped us getting the meds. Now we get the full Cyprus medical reciproacy the hospital/local doctors is a choice but still sometimes use pharmacy for convenience/speed/cost.
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Post: #4   PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 1:25 pm Reply with quote
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Went to Paralimni hospital today on the advice of a pharmacist. Took our Ehics cards, passports, and UK prescriptions. Paid our 3 euros each to see the doctor who made out prescriptions for the 2 of us. However this was only for the drugs that the hospital had. So we were told we would have to pay for Atorvastatin, Bisoprolol, Gliclazide, Bendroflumethiazide and Candesarten from a pharmacy.
When I queried this with the doctor she said this is the same regardless of age and if you were local or not, S1 or not.
So we paid 3 euros for the hospital prescriptions and toddled off to the pharmacy. They were surprised and said they thought alternatives should have been offered. So we bought the rest of the tabs we needed and this came to 138 euros for 1 month's supply. Shocked
So I don't understand how we are supposed to be able to get all our meds for 50c a pop even once we have our yellow slips and S1's sorted.
btw my wife is retired but I'm not, (her toy boy).

Any comments, advice, experience gratefully received.
Thanks,
Confused of Dherynia.
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Post: #5   PostPosted: Sun Dec 24, 2017 7:42 pm Reply with quote
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Santorini Paul 1 wrote:
Went to Paralimni hospital today on the advice of a pharmacist. Took our Ehics cards, passports, and UK prescriptions. Paid our 3 euros each to see the doctor who made out prescriptions for the 2 of us. However this was only for the drugs that the hospital had. So we were told we would have to pay for Atorvastatin, Bisoprolol, Gliclazide, Bendroflumethiazide and Candesarten from a pharmacy.
When I queried this with the doctor she said this is the same regardless of age and if you were local or not, S1 or not.
So we paid 3 euros for the hospital prescriptions and toddled off to the pharmacy. They were surprised and said they thought alternatives should have been offered. So we bought the rest of the tabs we needed and this came to 138 euros for 1 month's supply. Shocked
So I don't understand how we are supposed to be able to get all our meds for 50c a pop even once we have our yellow slips and S1's sorted.
btw my wife is retired but I'm not, (her toy boy).

Any comments, advice, experience gratefully received.
Thanks,
Confused of Dherynia.


Both I and my wife who is Cypriot/British are retired and in receipt of UK pensions and receive RoC government medical treatment under the SI agreement, in other words we get exactly the same medical treatment and medicine prescription service from government Doctors and hospitals as a Cypriot who is entitled to the full range of medical services. Be aware that not all Cypriots are as entitled.

A couple of years ago my wife suffered a major heart problem, she collapsed in our village surgery while on an unrelated visit accompanying an elderly neighbour. Kept alive by the Surgery Doctor and Nurse with the assistance of the Pharmacist and the Receptionist she was rushed by ambulance with a Doctor and Nurse onboard to Nicosia General Hospital which is thankfully our local hospital, where she was admitted to the Cardiology department and underwent two weeks of tests resulting in a diagnosis which determined that she required a replacement heart valve and a triple heart bypass operation.
Some discussion then took place about when and where this procedure should take place and it was decided that further treatment should be asap at the Aretaeio Private Hospital Nicosia as a Cyprus Government fully funded patient. At no time was my wife or I questioned about our ability to pay or if we had private medical insurance, our white Cyprus government medical card Form No Y.Y. (I.Y.)91 was checked for validity in the second week of her stay at the government hospital as it had not been presented on emergency admittance.

Once transferred by government ambulance, again with a Doctor and Nurse in attendance my wife was admitted to the Aretaeio Hospital where she underwent further extensive testing for over a week which confirmed the government Cardiology Specialists diagnosis and the successful eleven hour operation took place on a Sunday as the Surgeons and their team required an uninterrupted day to carry out the procedure. After the operation my wife spent six days in intensive care where she was cared for mainly by 'Rosie' a wonderful Nursing Sister/manager who unbeknown then to us had previously worked in the same UK town where my wife had spent most of her own NHS Nursing career. Once released from intensive care and onto a ward she spent a further two weeks undergoing more tests and physiotherapy before being discharged. Prior to discharge her Specialist saw her once again and gave her the prescription for the medicines that she would be required to use, some for life which he said would be mostly unavailable from the government health service. My wife's first appointment with a government Cardiology Specialist after the operation confirmed what she had been told at the private hospital regarding the prescription medicines and her continuing medication consists of a mix and match prescription, some privately sourced and others supplied by the government pharmacies.

A short while ago it seemed that this system of prescription medicine supply might change with all medicines being supplied by private pharmacies and medicines previously unobtainable from government sources being supplied through the private pharmacies at a marginally higher price than those normally supplied by the government. I have heard or read nothing more of this and probably things will remain as they are now for some time to come.
The total cost of my wife's privately supplied pharmacy medicines comes to around Ä180 a month, not an insubstantial amount of money but reasonably moderate when compared to those medicines supplied by the government pharmacies which add up to around twice that sum.

So how did we rate the system? Well it is said that you can only judge people an organisation or a country by how they treat you when you've nothing to offer in return. Our rating is an Excellent 5* plus or 10/10 plus if that were possible for our village surgery Doctor Nurse Pharmacist and Receptionist the Ambulance Service and both the Government and Private Hospital Specialists Nursing and Domestic staff in Nicosia. Our rating is confirmed by our son and daughter in law, both of whom are Doctors of a Medical Science discipline and Hospital Consultant Doctors of Medicine, or as our son said to his mother after investigating both hospitals for himself and meeting their Medical Specialists "Mum, if you had a choice about where this was going to happen, you couldn't have made a better one" and that comment on choice included the UK where they both trained and worked as well as the U.S. Australia and NZ of which they have additional professional working experience.

Observations. Bear in mind that just as elswhere familiarity with the system can make a difference to an outcome and we are grateful to a Cypriot neighbour and friend whose familiarity with the government health system allowed us to be guided through its inner workings. With regard to any language difficulties that might have arisen and although my wife is a native Greek speaker English was used almost all of the time even when I was not present. The language issue or rather the lack of it also produced an amusing diversion for my wife from the seriousness of her illness, the Aeataeo Private Hospital is linked through the University of Nicosia Medical School to St. George's Medical School London and medical students and exchange medical students from the Medical School of Nicosia and St. Georges carry out medical investigation case study reports at the Aeataeo which require interviews with patients, obviously for the non Greek speaking student this can cause difficulties and the news that an English speaking Cypriot who was a trained Nurse familier with medical phraseology quickly spread and most of her conscious reasonably well time at the hospital was spent being interviewed by medical students and not watching TV or searching the internet.

Overall we as a family which includes two Medical Doctors are very impressed by the level of medical competence and high standard of care available to patients in Nicosia, as for the cost of some of the medicines that are required for my wife's continued well being we pay no more than a Cypriot 'proper' would pay with the alternative being that if she did not need them she wouldn't now be alive to have told the tale.


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Post: #6   PostPosted: Sun Dec 24, 2017 10:45 pm Reply with quote
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confused by medication here. saw GP at hospital & cant prescribe any of my arthritis pills. even those i can buy in pharmacy. so got appointment in 10 weeks with orthopedic doc at hospital. no idea what they will or can prescribe.
GP cant transcribe my daughters concerta for ADHD. suggested go & see a pediatrician at hospital. not hopeful tho as previously can only be be done by a child psychiatrist not a pediatrician or a general psychiatrist. At the moment travelling an hour away to Nicosia to see private doctor at 70 euro a time plus 50 euro a month for the medication. surely is a cheaper way as have free medical card from S1 as husband has a UK pension
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Post: #7   PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2017 8:54 am Reply with quote
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I know people complain about the north -but take your prescription or old boxes over and any pharmacy will give you what you need at a least a third less!not the best solution but cheapest!cant see why either of you not allowed certain drugs on prescription!
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Post: #8   PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2017 9:07 am Reply with quote
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jeff60 wrote:
I know people complain about the north -but take your prescription or old boxes over and any pharmacy will give you what you need at a least a third less!not the best solution but cheapest!cant see why either of you not allowed certain drugs on prescription!



her private doc suggested that. but got to see if we would save enough to make it worth getting car insurance

i cant get mine as got to be an orthoepadic specialist to prescribe. not sure what he/she will give me. as GP said hospital dont do naproxen or co-codamol. say cant get codeine here as dangerous. yet thought was on list of drugs you can buy. strange as can buy same naproxen in chemist & in uk more warnings of that being dangerous
dont really trust pharmacies. bought co-codamol with 10mg codeine & normally have the 30mg. he said just take more. thought a bit dodgy. and got them from another place last time. he said no more than on packet as will overdose on paracetamol.
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Post: #9   PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2017 9:20 am Reply with quote
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jeff60 wrote:
I know people complain about the north -but take your prescription or old boxes over and any pharmacy will give you what you need at a least a third less!not the best solution but cheapest!cant see why either of you not allowed certain drugs on prescription!


Hi Jeff,
I could not understand that either, especially as they are pretty much mainstream drugs, a statin and a diabetic drug for example. As I said the pharmacy was surprised that an alternative was not offered.
Going from free medication in the UK to 130 euros a month here is an expense we had not budgeted for.

Does anyone get Atorvastatin, Bisoprolol, Gliclazide, Bendroflumethiazide, Candesarten or similar for 50c a pop and if so how?

Many thanks and Merry Christmas,
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Post: #10   PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2017 1:14 pm Reply with quote
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Statins and diabetic drugs are available at the hospital pharmacy. Either there has been a misunderstanding or a problem with your paperwork. ?
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Post: #11   PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2017 6:25 pm Reply with quote
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Yes statins are available at hospital on a health card. Cost of specialist doctor to sign prescription then standard 50cents. Queue up twice to see doctor buy stamps then wait in pharmacy or.... pay less than half and nip over to Famagusta. Same drugs same packaging and lot less hassle. Happy christmas
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Post: #12   PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2017 6:56 pm Reply with quote
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Hi Bob,
That's what we did (not the Famagusta bit) and they simply said the drugs I mentioned earlier were not available at the hospital and must be bought in a Pharmacy and this was the same regardless of circumstances.
I did query everything so no idea where the confusion/mistake/error occurred.
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Post: #13   PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2017 7:17 pm Reply with quote
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If we go to famagusta will they sell the strong co-codamol that canít get prescription for?? Or is it not available at all in any part of cyprus. Found online but not allowed to post here
Have got private prescription for daughters concerta. Just donít teally want to pay 50 Euro a month. Especially as have hospital card so pay 50c at hospital
Can understand it is a controlled drug being amphetamine based.
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Looking at the northern Cyprus forum it is equally difficult to obtain there as it is such a dangerous drug . I would be very careful as to where i obtained this drug and certainly would not buy it anywhere other than a reputable pharmacy in the Republic
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scottie wrote:
Looking at the northern Cyprus forum it is equally difficult to obtain there as it is such a dangerous drug . I would be very careful as to where i obtained this drug and certainly would not buy it anywhere other than a reputable pharmacy in the Republic


Do you mean the concerta?? Not exactly dangerous just a mildish amphetamine if someone took it that doesnít have ADHD. I was bit dubious as had heard some pharmacyís sell fakes which at best would not work or could be dangerous. But would have no way of knowing which pharmacy to trust. Did raise this concern with doctor & she said it was perfectly safe. But she is Swedish so maybe not aware of dodgy things sold in the north.
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As a grade 11 drug , I would class it as a dangerous drug which has to be monitored carefully. If you buy it anywhere surely it must be under supervision of your doctor? Go back and ask to speak to someone at the hospital , there must be someone who can help you
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scottie wrote:
https://drugabuse.com/library/the-effects-of-concerta-use/

As a grade 11 drug , I would class it as a dangerous drug which has to be monitored carefully. If you buy it anywhere surely it must be under supervision of your doctor? Go back and ask to speak to someone at the hospital , there must be someone who can help you



daughter is now 12. diagnosed with ADHD by CAMHS in uk when first started school. been on ritalin for few years which worked well for her on school days. all relatively straight forward until we moved here. Cyprus does not have Ritalin so put on similar which is concerta. took ages to find a private doctor to prescribe. in uk CAMHS requested GP give prescriptions so easy & free

After lots of phone calls found out that GPs, pediatricians & psychiatrists cannot prescribe these drugs. has to be a child psychiatrist. In state system is only 1 in our area & as covers from paralimni to larnaca is a very long waiting list. So ended up going to Nicosia & paying 70 euro a consultation. had 2 so far & as needed first prescription on a friday to start taking monday paid 100 euro for 2 months tablets. This time as have hospital card as husband gets uk pension trying not to pay for pharmacy
went to general hospital & saw GP last week. she is not allowed to prescribe concerta. advised to make appointment with psychiatrist but as only there once a week is long wait. then said come back & see pediatrician which is only 6 euro & see if she will/can prescribe.
So that is next thing we will do. But as initially told can only be done by child psychiatrist thinking will be a waste of time
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madmum wrote:
But as initially told can only be done by child psychiatrist thinking will be a waste of time


Maybe you could get a prescription by a "regular" pediatrician filled by an online-pharmacy in another EU country? Or in the North?
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I was prescribed Bendroflumethiazide back in the UK, but when we moved here our local pharmacist said this medication wasn't available in Cyprus and suggested I take a tablet called Frumil (40+5) mg which is furosemide + amiloride hydrochloride and cost 9.06Ä for a pack of 28.
If you do take these just be warned that almost immediately your kidneys go into overdrive and for the first 4 hours I didn't dare be more than a few minutes from a loo, so my pharmacist suggested I split the pills in half. Now I only need to be near a loo for the first 2 hours Laughing
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Bendroflumethiazide are available up here at a cost of 70p for 28.

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