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Threatened by a Rottweiler - what should I do 
Post: #1   PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 9:43 pm Reply with quote
sunnysuzie
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Hi all,

tonight I took Robbie for his usual walk, adding an extra few minutes went a different way, the Rottweiler (sure I spelt it wrong the huge dogs black and tan, very strong) that is usually chained up all day, was out in it's garden, the side wall been a foot tall, he saw us, growled and came racing over, I nearly *hi* myself, as have never liked this breed (bad experience from a pub I worked in and their guard dog, bit me on the bum), it went straight for my dog, didn't actually bite him, but his posture was not friendly, I was shouting at it, didn't react to me at all, wouldn't leave my dog alone, then it bit hold of my dog's tail, me nearly in tears by now and not knowing what the hell to do, finally someone from the house came out, a girl in her twenties, shouting at the dog, would she come near it, what do you think? She gestured for me to pick my dog up and keep walking, which I did, have the bruises to prove it from a 15 kilo dog gladly leaping into your arms. I walked what I thought was a safe distance, put my little fella down, checking him, the sodding thing came right back at us. I had to carry my dog the rest of the way home, and eventually the girl went over to the dog and got it in, had no collar on.

I was shaking when I got home, thank god neither of us were hurt, I was going to call the police, but then wondered would I get a bit of meat laced with something nasty thrown over my wall for my dog to eat.

What should I have done, did my reaction make things worse, I'm too scared to walk that way now, which isn't right, I've done nothing wrong.

Sorry for such a long winded post, any help much appreciated.

Sue
PS I've now bought a small aerosol to carry as I was told dogs hate the noise?
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Post: #2   PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 7:37 am Reply with quote
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As a dog lover and owner of two German Shepherds, one weighing over 50 kilo I would say it is the owners fault. I have met loving and gentle large dogs and I have met small vicious dogs. I have taken my German Shepherds for a walk and they have been attacked by a Jack Russell... People with small dogs think this is funny but I dare say if my dogs had bitten back it would have been one dead JR (mine was leaded their one wasn't).

Sometimes fear (and who wouldn't have been) can make matters worse, it is a little worrying that this dog managed to 'get out' but again the owners fault not the dogs.

Personally I would pay a visit to the owners of the Rottweiler, explain to them your concerns and IF they are sensible they will fully understand and put measures into place so that it doesn't happen again.

If my dogs caused a concern to anyone I would certainly appreciate a word in the ear, sure if they actually bit someone it would be a different matter unless that someone was crawling through my window at 2.00am Wink
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Re: Threatened by a Rottweiler - what should I do 
Post: #3   PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 8:21 am Reply with quote
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sunnysuzie wrote:
Hi all,

tonight I took Robbie for his usual walk, adding an extra few minutes went a different way, the Rottweiler (sure I spelt it wrong the huge dogs black and tan, very strong) that is usually chained up all day, was out in it's garden, the side wall been a foot tall, he saw us, growled and came racing over, I nearly *hi* myself, as have never liked this breed (bad experience from a pub I worked in and their guard dog, bit me on the bum), it went straight for my dog, didn't actually bite him, but his posture was not friendly, I was shouting at it, didn't react to me at all, wouldn't leave my dog alone, then it bit hold of my dog's tail, me nearly in tears by now and not knowing what the hell to do, finally someone from the house came out, a girl in her twenties, shouting at the dog, would she come near it, what do you think? She gestured for me to pick my dog up and keep walking, which I did, have the bruises to prove it from a 15 kilo dog gladly leaping into your arms. I walked what I thought was a safe distance, put my little fella down, checking him, the sodding thing came right back at us. I had to carry my dog the rest of the way home, and eventually the girl went over to the dog and got it in, had no collar on.

I was shaking when I got home, thank god neither of us were hurt, I was going to call the police, but then wondered would I get a bit of meat laced with something nasty thrown over my wall for my dog to eat.

What should I have done, did my reaction make things worse, I'm too scared to walk that way now, which isn't right, I've done nothing wrong.

Sorry for such a long winded post, any help much appreciated.

Sue
PS I've now bought a small aerosol to carry as I was told dogs hate the noise?


Sorry to hear of your experience, but from what you said it would imply that the owners were Cypriots ??

Well a word in their ear would not make any difference. Matters like these are best left to the authorities. Imagine if a child was walking your (or a similar) dog down that route. Imagine if the dog had gone for both. What if the child couldn't carry the dog and get knocked over with this whooping 15 KG dog jump up at it.

The thought scares me. As a child i was bitten by and greatdane on the bum and was nearly eaten a live by an alsatian guard dog. Hell, i know , its scary when you are faced with it.

I think you should have called the police, even though it is the owners fault, that would be no consolation if you had had part of your face taken out.

You shouldn't have to worry about which way you walk, most people come to cyprus so that they don't, so it needs to stop. Irresponsible owners and dangerous dogs need to be controlled.

good luck

P.S. i wouldn't worry about the licing of stuff over the wall, this issue is far too exaggerated here IMO.
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Post: #4   PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 9:41 am Reply with quote
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Sorry to hear of your scary experience. It is totally unnacceptable for the rottweiler’s owners to allow him to EVER roam free. We have a big powerful dog who is intolerant of other male dogs (he’s like a lamb with bitches) so we take the appropriate action to make sure he cannot come into contact with them unsupervised or unrestrained.

Personally I would first approach the owners directly & explain that they really do need to keep their dog tethered if their land isn’t ‘dog proof’ in order for it not to be a threat to other dogs, and therefore, by default (as your bruises prove) other dog owners. If done in a friendly non-confrontational way, any reasonable, intelligent people will understand they have a duty to be vigilant if they choose to own a big dog. If this fails then I think a visit to your local Mukhtar or the police will be necessary so that they can inform the owners of their responsibilities with regard to ensuring their dog is under control.

My advice is to buy yourself a walking stick & also a ‘rape alarm’ to carry with you while you’re walking in the area. But it’s probably just best to avoid going near the property – better safe than sorry.
I carry a riding crop and a muzzle when we’re out exercising our pooch. A quick swoosh of the crop is usually enough to deter dogs from getting too close. I find it amazing how many people are happy to let their dogs come racing up to ours (who is never allowed off the lead while out) despite our shouts of warning for them to restrain their dogs as ours isn’t good with other dogs – they reply “Its OK, he just wants to say hello” Sad & then stare daggers when our dog doesn’t react in a friendly way Mad

We are experienced molosser owners having had several bull breeds over the years. These breeds of dog require clued up owners who are aware of how to control the dog’s innate guarding instincts and tendencies towards inter dog aggression – that is, after all, what they are breed to do! They must be willing to put in the time to train their dogs thoroughly as well as taking the necessary precautions to ensure that the dogs never pose a threat to the public – either human or canine. Sadly, the Cypriot machismo attitude means that there are many people here who get themselves a big dog for all the wrong reasons and have little or no understanding of what is required to be a responsible owner – we recently had a child run up to us while we were out walking & proudly announce that his Dad’s dog could easily kill our dog! Sure enough, in the distance was a bloke being dragged around by a Pitbull on a rope.
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Post: #5   PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 9:43 am Reply with quote
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Sue that's horrible.. Can i ask where you walk your dog in the Village as I too walk my little guy and do not want to experience the same thing you've just gone thru. I would too call the police on the owners.. that is just not acceptable for their pets with that temperment to be able to get out of their garden.

Call them today, or just go straight down to our local office. and please let us know what happens.

E
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Post: #6   PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 9:39 pm Reply with quote
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Hi There Suzie,
Really sorry to hear about your experience and hope there will be no lasting damage to your dog. The old saying is very true "there are no bad dogs - only bad owners". Being a long time responsible "Rottie" owner, I'm on my third one there is nothing wrong with the breed if trained and socialised from an early age, ask my 5 grand children.
Only problem is that some idiots buy them for all the wrong reasons and manage to get the dogs a bad name. Sadly whilst involved with the breed rehoming scheme we had many of these dogs brought to us and most when allowed to go bad have to be put down.
Again sorry to hear of your experience.
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Post: #7   PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 6:25 pm Reply with quote
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Thank you all for your comments and advise, and also your own experiences. I am staying away from the property, just going past in the car, checking the dog is chained up which it has been ever since. The owners are Cypriot, and a few people in the area have had run ins with them, not about the dog, but trivial things, they seem to have a weird mentality this family. Which is why I didn't want to get the police involved, I'm on my own and didn't want any come back, and try to get along with people in general.

I know "Rotties" as a whole are not a bad dogs, but a dog this size being chained up all day, just been taken down the road once a day if it's lucky is going to have an effect on it's attitude I would imagine.

I have a walking stick now, have written down the address, and if I ever see it unchained will go straight to the police. Have also been asking neighbours if this sort of thing has happened before and they say it's always chained up, so maybe I was just unlucky the day they let it off, I walk past. Not that I'm, saying this is right, they should be responsible and make their property dog proof it it's allowed to roam free. I have and I only have medium sized dog who would lick you to death.

The area I walk in opposite Zorba's in Oroklini, around Ammochostous Street if you want to avoid it!

What sort of dog is a Molosser, never heard of that one?

Thanks again everyone

Sue
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What sort of dog is a Molosser, never heard of that one?


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Post: #9   PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 4:52 pm Reply with quote
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Cheers Kwacka,

Learnt something new today, what a huge collection of breeds there is in that group!

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