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Post: #1   PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 8:07 am Reply with quote
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Following on from Spain's declaration that voting rights for UK nationals living in Spain will continue after BREXIT have Cyprus as yet made any declarations on UK nationals in Cyprus after BREXIT?

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KIZI wrote:
Following on from Spain's declaration that voting rights for UK nationals living in Spain will continue after BREXIT have Cyprus as yet made any declarations on UK nationals in Cyprus after BREXIT?

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At the moment UK Nationals living in Cyprus are only permitted to vote in local council/municipality elections, and EU elections, both of these are due to the UK being in the EU. Before Cyprus joined the EU, UK Nationals had no voting rights.

After Brexit I would expect it to revert to no votes for Brits.

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Post: #3   PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:35 am Reply with quote
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Thanks spanner, I was thinking the same as you. But I wondered if Cyprus had made any firm commitments as Spain had about voting, and also if any other commitments to UK nationals had been made by the Cypriot Government? I don't seem to have read anything as yet.

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KIZI wrote:
Thanks spanner, I was thinking the same as you. But I wondered if Cyprus had made any firm commitments as Spain had about voting, and also if any other commitments to UK nationals had been made by the Cypriot Government? I don't seem to have read anything as yet.

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I have read that if you obtain permanent residency before Brexit your rights will remain as they are now , other than of course EU elections
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Or this :-
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That doesn't mention voting rights, and it is dependent on there being an agreement between the EU and the UK, which is not looking very likely at the moment.

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That doesn't mention voting rights, and it is dependent on there being an agreement between the EU and the UK, which is not looking very likely at the moment.


It does say " all rights " though ?
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spanner wrote:
That doesn't mention voting rights, and it is dependent on there being an agreement between the EU and the UK, which is not looking very likely at the moment.


I thought the headline made it clear - "Britons to be removed from Cyprus electoral roll post-Brexit" ?

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nhowarth wrote:
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That doesn't mention voting rights, and it is dependent on there being an agreement between the EU and the UK, which is not looking very likely at the moment.


I thought the headline made it clear - "Britons to be removed from Cyprus electoral roll post-Brexit" ?

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I believe there has been clarification since and " permanent residents " can re register
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I believe there has been clarification since and " permanent residents " can re register


Where did you see that?

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I believe there has been clarification since and " permanent residents " can re register


Where did you see that?

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This was updated Jan this year
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Hi scottie

If you follow that link it takes you to a page that says:

"If you are an EU national living in another EU country, you have the right to vote and to stand as a candidate in municipal and European elections ​held in that country. The conditions are the same for you as for nationals."

After Brexit we will no longer be considered as EU nationals.

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nhowarth wrote:
Hi scottie

If you follow that link it takes you to a page that says:

"If you are an EU national living in another EU country, you have the right to vote and to stand as a candidate in municipal and European elections ​held in that country. The conditions are the same for you as for nationals."

After Brexit we will no longer be considered as EU nationals.

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Not very clever when it comes to legal matters , what is the difference between a national and a citizen .
I thought to become a national one had to have permanent residency in said country
To be a citizen one has to be naturalised and obtain citizenship ?
If I am wrong ( which is very likely ) I apologise
If however I am correct those who have obtained permanent residency are EU nationals

All very confusing , interesting nonetheless 😊
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Unfortunately scottie, to say that those who have obtained permanent residency are EU nationals is incorrect. (Any nationality can obtain naturalization, providing they meet the criteria.)

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The MEU1 is a Certificate of Registration.
The MEU3 is a Certificate of Permanent Residency.

If you successfully apply for naturalization you become a dual national and will have two passports - one issued by HMG and one issued by the Cyprus Government.

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Post: #17   PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:17 pm Reply with quote
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If you leave the club, then dont expect to receive the benefits.


But we are paying next years club fees, and probably the next 5 years.

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Post: #18   PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:28 pm Reply with quote
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nhowarth wrote:
Unfortunately scottie, to say that those who have obtained permanent residency are EU nationals is incorrect. (Any nationality can obtain naturalization, providing they meet the criteria.)

The rules governing naturalization can be found at
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The MEU1 is a Certificate of Registration.
The MEU3 is a Certificate of Permanent Residency.

If you successfully apply for naturalization you become a dual national and will have two passports - one issued by HMG and one issued by the Cyprus Government.

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I already have two passports and dual nationality . I was just interested in the subject and hoped someone would make some sense out of the different things I had read .
I'm still sure I read somewhere that the voting system would remain for those with permanent residency .
Only time will tell I suppose as with the rest of the process . Thank you for explaining some points
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