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Post: #1   PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 1:18 am Reply with quote
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Hi folks,

Shown below is the Operation Yellowhammer Report that was released
by the UK Govt. on 11/09/2019.

These are HMG "Reasonable Worst Case Planning Assumptions" in the event
of a "no deal" Brexit.

Points that may affect British citizens in Cyprus are:

Page 1 - third paragraph:

"No bilateral deals have been concluded with individual member states...."

Plus point numbers: 4, 8 & 11.






Please keep any replies on topic and not a rehash of old arguments.

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Post: #2   PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:34 am Reply with quote
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I see this document was printed at the beginning of August? Confused

How strange, because I'm sure that Boris Johnson told us, last month, that this was an 'old' report which had no relevance to the current situation!!

Not like ol' Boris to be economical with the truth!!! Shocked Laughing Laughing Laughing

BTW, one can see now why Leadsom thought people might be "concerned" about its contents! Rolling Eyes

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Post: #3   PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:04 am Reply with quote
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Woodrow Why?at wrote:
I see this document was printed at the beginning of August? Confused

How strange, because I'm sure that Boris Johnson told us, last month, that this was an 'old' report which had no relevance to the current situation!!

Not like ol' Boris to be economical with the truth!!! Shocked Laughing Laughing Laughing

BTW, one can see now why Leadsom thought people might be "concerned" about its contents! Rolling Eyes


And exactly how,long do you think it takes to put a document of this type Together? Overnight?. “What If” planning is common in any business and it is prudent to do so, better to be prepared for the worst case rather than caught with your trousers down. But hey, why let common sense get in the way of a bit of “Boris Bashing”, sorry the operative word there being common sense...which with some seems not to apply.

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Post: #4   PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:10 am Reply with quote
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Hudswell wrote:
Woodrow Why?at wrote:
I see this document was printed at the beginning of August? Confused

How strange, because I'm sure that Boris Johnson told us, last month, that this was an 'old' report which had no relevance to the current situation!!

Not like ol' Boris to be economical with the truth!!! Shocked Laughing Laughing Laughing

BTW, one can see now why Leadsom thought people might be "concerned" about its contents! Rolling Eyes


And exactly how,long do you think it takes to put a document of this type Together? Overnight?. “What If” planning is common in any business and it is prudent to do so, better to be prepared for the worst case rather than caught with your trousers down. But hey, why let common sense get in the way of a bit of “Boris Bashing”, sorry the operative word there being common sense...which with some seems not to apply.


So what should no deal Brexit planning be based on, the report they are producing now which won't be ready until next year?

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Post: #5   PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:12 am Reply with quote
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Is there a "Redhammer" Document on the worst case scenario of staying in the EU?

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Re: Operation Yellowhammer Report - Details 
Post: #6   PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:12 am Reply with quote
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An interesting comment on page 1, second paragraph, suggesting that the EU commission is not supportive of Member States coming to bi lateral agreements with the UK after Brexit.

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Post: #7   PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:17 am Reply with quote
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It was reported this morning that the document released yesterday was dated 29th August.

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Re: Operation Yellowhammer Report - Details 
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Hudswell wrote:


An interesting comment on page 1, second paragraph, suggesting that the EU commission is not supportive of Member States coming to bi lateral agreements with the UK after Brexit.


The EU negotiates with other states on their members' behalf - they don't do negotiations independently.

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Post: #9   PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:48 am Reply with quote
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Hudswell wrote:
Woodrow Why?at wrote:
I see this document was printed at the beginning of August? Confused

How strange, because I'm sure that Boris Johnson told us, last month, that this was an 'old' report which had no relevance to the current situation!!

Not like ol' Boris to be economical with the truth!!! Shocked Laughing Laughing Laughing

BTW, one can see now why Leadsom thought people might be "concerned" about its contents! Rolling Eyes


And exactly how,long do you think it takes to put a document of this type Together? Overnight?. “What If” planning is common in any business and it is prudent to do so, better to be prepared for the worst case rather than caught with your trousers down. But hey, why let common sense get in the way of a bit of “Boris Bashing”, sorry the operative word there being common sense...which with some seems not to apply.


Surely that's a contradiction of terms.

Boris and Common sense.

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Post: #10   PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:56 am Reply with quote
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Hudswell wrote:
Woodrow Why?at wrote:
I see this document was printed at the beginning of August? Confused

How strange, because I'm sure that Boris Johnson told us, last month, that this was an 'old' report which had no relevance to the current situation!!

Not like ol' Boris to be economical with the truth!!! Shocked Laughing Laughing Laughing

BTW, one can see now why Leadsom thought people might be "concerned" about its contents! Rolling Eyes


And exactly how,long do you think it takes to put a document of this type Together? Overnight?. “What If” planning is common in any business and it is prudent to do so, better to be prepared for the worst case rather than caught with your trousers down. But hey, why let common sense get in the way of a bit of “Boris Bashing”, sorry the operative word there being common sense...which with some seems not to apply.


Please tell that to my friend whose business has just gone under!!! This debacle has been over 3 years in the making, it is easy to come on here and defend the incompetence of this government. Try keeping a business afloat when you have no idea what is going to happen, and at this moment still don`t know what is going to happen.
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Very worrying time, especially for peeps who are dependent on medication that is manufactured in the EU. Glad I am not living there at the moment, although my thoughts are with family and friends who unfortunately are.

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Post: #12   PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:00 pm Reply with quote
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mouse wrote:
Hudswell wrote:
Woodrow Why?at wrote:
I see this document was printed at the beginning of August? Confused

How strange, because I'm sure that Boris Johnson told us, last month, that this was an 'old' report which had no relevance to the current situation!!

Not like ol' Boris to be economical with the truth!!! Shocked Laughing Laughing Laughing

BTW, one can see now why Leadsom thought people might be "concerned" about its contents! Rolling Eyes


And exactly how,long do you think it takes to put a document of this type Together? Overnight?. “What If” planning is common in any business and it is prudent to do so, better to be prepared for the worst case rather than caught with your trousers down. But hey, why let common sense get in the way of a bit of “Boris Bashing”, sorry the operative word there being common sense...which with some seems not to apply.


Surely that's a contradiction of terms.

Boris and Common sense.

Oh I wasn’t applying the term to Boris...

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Post: #13   PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:00 pm Reply with quote
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Anybody waded through it? Every potential result specific sentence contains “could” or “may”. It’s worst case contingency planning.

Hammond was averse to even considering no deal and notoriously reluctant to release any funds for preparation. That seems to have changed somewhat now. And of course, it looks like they could have another 3 months grace.

Haven’t there already been “riots” (public disorder)? Almost exclusively on the Remain side. Most notably in Parliament recently, which seems to have become a mad house. A bleedin’ embarrassing disgrace.

As the “threat” of Brexit looms I’d expect to see a lot more of this sort of thing. Basically an all-out assault on every aspect of it.

It seems to be a diminishing hope right now but it would be great to actually leave and if none of this (or very little) comes about witness the sort of selective memory loss and silence we’ve seen since the referendum campaign scaremongering days. Half a million unemployed - etc - etc.


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Post: #14   PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:02 pm Reply with quote
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sugarray1955 wrote:
Very worrying time, especially for peeps who are dependent on medication that is manufactured in the EU. Glad I am not living there at the moment, although my thoughts are with family and friends who unfortunately are.


Well I am living here and I have absolutely no concerns, despite the best efforts of the scaremongers who are determined to spread fear and discord. Fail to plan, pan to fail...the Government is planning.

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Re: Operation Yellowhammer Report - Details 
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Kwacka wrote:
Hudswell wrote:


An interesting comment on page 1, second paragraph, suggesting that the EU commission is not supportive of Member States coming to bi lateral agreements with the UK after Brexit.


The EU negotiates with other states on their members' behalf - they don't do negotiations independently.


And your “beliefs” have just summed up why the UK wishes to leave the UK, well done. And point of order, Member states are permitted to strike bilateral agreements, Cyprus just concluded one with the UK in regard to tax arrangements, remember?

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spanner wrote:
Hudswell wrote:
Woodrow Why?at wrote:
I see this document was printed at the beginning of August? Confused

How strange, because I'm sure that Boris Johnson told us, last month, that this was an 'old' report which had no relevance to the current situation!!

Not like ol' Boris to be economical with the truth!!! Shocked Laughing Laughing Laughing

BTW, one can see now why Leadsom thought people might be "concerned" about its contents! Rolling Eyes


And exactly how,long do you think it takes to put a document of this type Together? Overnight?. “What If” planning is common in any business and it is prudent to do so, better to be prepared for the worst case rather than caught with your trousers down. But hey, why let common sense get in the way of a bit of “Boris Bashing”, sorry the operative word there being common sense...which with some seems not to apply.


So what should no deal Brexit planning be based on, the report they are producing now which won't be ready until next year?


That’s what “What If” Scenario planning is all about, thinking about what if this or that happens, thinking outside of the box...it is common practice, in Government, in Business, in the Armed Forces, forward planning.

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Post: #17   PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:11 pm Reply with quote
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Kwacka wrote:
It was reported this morning that the document released yesterday was dated 29th August.


The assumptions made in the document are stated “as at” 2 August. Again how long do you think it takes to prepare a document like this? The actual publication date is almost irrelevant.

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TOMMYBOYWALTON wrote:
Hudswell wrote:
Woodrow Why?at wrote:
I see this document was printed at the beginning of August? Confused

How strange, because I'm sure that Boris Johnson told us, last month, that this was an 'old' report which had no relevance to the current situation!!

Not like ol' Boris to be economical with the truth!!! Shocked Laughing Laughing Laughing

BTW, one can see now why Leadsom thought people might be "concerned" about its contents! Rolling Eyes


And exactly how,long do you think it takes to put a document of this type Together? Overnight?. “What If” planning is common in any business and it is prudent to do so, better to be prepared for the worst case rather than caught with your trousers down. But hey, why let common sense get in the way of a bit of “Boris Bashing”, sorry the operative word there being common sense...which with some seems not to apply.


Please tell that to my friend whose business has just gone under!!! This debacle has been over 3 years in the making, it is easy to come on here and defend the incompetence of this government. Try keeping a business afloat when you have no idea what is going to happen, and at this moment still don`t know what is going to happen.


I have no idea of your friends circumstances, or that of his business, but Brexit is becoming a common scapegoat.

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Hudswell wrote:
mouse wrote:
Hudswell wrote:
Woodrow Why?at wrote:
I see this document was printed at the beginning of August? Confused

How strange, because I'm sure that Boris Johnson told us, last month, that this was an 'old' report which had no relevance to the current situation!!

Not like ol' Boris to be economical with the truth!!! Shocked Laughing Laughing Laughing

BTW, one can see now why Leadsom thought people might be "concerned" about its contents! Rolling Eyes


And exactly how,long do you think it takes to put a document of this type Together? Overnight?. “What If” planning is common in any business and it is prudent to do so, better to be prepared for the worst case rather than caught with your trousers down. But hey, why let common sense get in the way of a bit of “Boris Bashing”, sorry the operative word there being common sense...which with some seems not to apply.


Surely that's a contradiction of terms.

Boris and Common sense.

Oh I wasn’t applying the term to Boris...


At Last you admit Boris has not got any common sense.

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mouse wrote:
Hudswell wrote:
mouse wrote:
Hudswell wrote:
Woodrow Why?at wrote:
I see this document was printed at the beginning of August? Confused

How strange, because I'm sure that Boris Johnson told us, last month, that this was an 'old' report which had no relevance to the current situation!!

Not like ol' Boris to be economical with the truth!!! Shocked Laughing Laughing Laughing

BTW, one can see now why Leadsom thought people might be "concerned" about its contents! Rolling Eyes


And exactly how,long do you think it takes to put a document of this type Together? Overnight?. “What If” planning is common in any business and it is prudent to do so, better to be prepared for the worst case rather than caught with your trousers down. But hey, why let common sense get in the way of a bit of “Boris Bashing”, sorry the operative word there being common sense...which with some seems not to apply.


Surely that's a contradiction of terms.

Boris and Common sense.

Oh I wasn’t applying the term to Boris...


At Last you admit Boris has not got any common sense.


You can rad can’t you? 🙄

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