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Post: #1   PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:12 am Reply with quote
Anne Randle
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Hi,
Yesterday I emailed The GESY website to get some guidance and I got this reply which answered my questions fully. I will check the website from time to time to see when I can enroll online and post the info so others can do the same.

We would like to inform you that since you are a EU citizen and your ordinary residence is in the areas controlled by the Cyprus Government and you are an S1 holder, then you are a beneficiary and you will be able to enroll to the GHS.

In order to receive healthcare services as a beneficiary, you will have to enroll to the GHS and later on register to a Personal Doctors list. Please be informed that the beneficiary enrollment has not begun yet. The exact date for the beneficiary enrollment will be announced on the GHS website (www.gesy.org.cy) at a later stage. Once the enrollment begins, you will be able to enroll to the GHS through our website.

We would like to inform you that as an S1 document holder, which document was issued by another EU country, you have no obligation for the GHS contribution payments.

Thank you for contacting us, we remain at your disposal.

Hope this puts some minds at rest for the time being!
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Post: #2   PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:04 am Reply with quote
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What is an S1 holder please.
I have now found out by googling lol
Of course for the time being S1 holders will not pay because whilst the UK is still a member of the European Union and the UK are still footing the bill .

It's when/ if the UK exits they will probably have to contribute to the scheme themselves
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Post: #3   PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:11 pm Reply with quote
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Biilibob kindly posted the following info that was provided by the FCO:-

It has been confirmed that if you complete a tax return in Cyprus, you will have to pay healthcare contributions as set out by the Cypriot authorities. The contributions apply to everyone who pays there tax in Cyprus, including UK nationals.

Regarding the continued validity of the S1 form, the Cypriot government have made a positive announcement. People with S1 certificates will be able to access the same healthcare cover as they currently enjoy for an interim period of several months. At the end of the interim period (the precise length will need be confirmed soon) UK and Cyprus will seek a longer-term bilateral agreement to secure reciprocal healthcare cover for Britons in Cyprus and Cypriots in the UK.
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Post: #4   PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:50 pm Reply with quote
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scottie wrote:
What is an S1 holder please.
I have now found out by googling lol
Of course for the time being S1 holders will not pay because whilst the UK is still a member of the European Union and the UK are still footing the bill .

It's when/ if the UK exits they will probably have to contribute to the scheme themselves


Which will be a vote loser for the Cypriot politicians, albeit not their fault as a considerable number of S1 holders are Cypriot citizens who having returned 'home' to Cyprus after spending much if not all of their working lives in the UK&NI are in receipt of UK&NI state pensions. My wife's one of them as are five more members of her extended family as well as at least six neighbours in the small village where we live. Should the current GB1.5k per annum payment by the UK&NI's Department for Work and Pensions to the RoC Government Health Service for each registered UK&NI S1 holder not be reflected in the charge made to the individual after Brexit is completed then the RoC will suffer a loss of income. If the charge of GB1.5k pa is made to the individual then and if possible many might prefer to opt out of GESY and instead purchase private health insurance cover.

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Post: #5   PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:01 pm Reply with quote
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so confusing as to whether just carry on using S1 medical card at least for now or register for GESY.

Also as heard the hospital pharmacy are stopping issuing medication to out patients & instead giving a prescription to take to an outside pharmacy. what will we pay then? the 50 cents an item or cost of medication. once GESY actually starts there is a low price for prescriptions in enrolled in it. but what about the S1 holders that arent
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Post: #6   PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:32 pm Reply with quote
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madmum wrote:
so confusing as to whether just carry on using S1 medical card at least for now or register for GESY.

Also as heard the hospital pharmacy are stopping issuing medication to out patients & instead giving a prescription to take to an outside pharmacy. what will we pay then? the 50 cents an item or cost of medication. once GESY actually starts there is a low price for prescriptions in enrolled in it. but what about the S1 holders that arent


Any doctor whom you prefer will put you on their list for registration now. I did it over 2 months ago.
To the best of my knowledge the info you've been given is correct . Any medicine which is at the moment prescribed and collected at the hospital , will now cost one euro at the pharmacy . If you are prescribed a medicine which is not on the government list you will pay the cost. The hospital have already started altering their medicine . My inhaler for example was changed this month for a much cheaper but just as effective one.
So long as the UK don't get this thing over and done with there will be confusion.but while the UK is still in the union I should think your situation won't change , with Britain picking up the bill until they leave and who knows perhaps afterwards too
The only thing I think you should do at the moment is choose your doctor . Some GP' s at the hospital are asking patients if they want to enrol on their list , suggest you ask next time you see your GP
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Post: #7   PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 4:37 pm Reply with quote
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that all sounds OK. I see a GP at Famagusta rarely & a orthoepedic specialist. will I need to register with both or just the GP? first time I was referred by the GP but after that can go to main reception & make appointment.
my daughter occasionally sees paediatrician but mainly I just go & see her to get a prescription. so probably will have to register her too.

I noticed a change last month with her prescription as gave me a generic concerta this time. seems to be the same. and only 2 months when normally get 3 months also 2 weeks ago gave me 120 paracetamol but only 30 codeine. thought was strange as on recommended dose that 1 month paracetamol but only 2 weeks codeine
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Post: #8   PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 4:54 pm Reply with quote
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madmum wrote:
that all sounds OK. I see a GP at Famagusta rarely & a orthoepedic specialist. will I need to register with both or just the GP? first time I was referred by the GP but after that can go to main reception & make appointment.
my daughter occasionally sees paediatrician but mainly I just go & see her to get a prescription. so probably will have to register her too.

I noticed a change last month with her prescription as gave me a generic concerta this time. seems to be the same. and only 2 months when normally get 3 months also 2 weeks ago gave me 120 paracetamol but only 30 codeine. thought was strange as on recommended dose that 1 month paracetamol but only 2 weeks codeine


Again from what information I was given . You need only register with a GP . The system will then run like in the UK . Your GP will refer you to a specialist if needs be .
I did not say but you can register with a private doctor if that is your preference and there will be no payment to him/her either.
The downside is , I think drugs you can buy over the counter like paracetamol , you will have to buy
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Post: #9   PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 5:24 pm Reply with quote
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Would be good if could go to doc at Lito instead of sitting hours at hospital. Guess you cant register with both.
Dont think I could have op at Lito with GESY using S1 or even if pay for GESY it sounds too good to be true
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Post: #10   PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:23 pm Reply with quote
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scottie wrote:

Any doctor whom you prefer will put you on their list for registration now.

Provided that its a doctor willing to be part of GESY. Not all of them want to though.
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Post: #11   PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:35 pm Reply with quote
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[quote="jeba"]
scottie wrote:

Any doctor whom you prefer will put you on their list for registration now.

Provided that its a doctor willing to be part of GESY. Not all of them want to though.[/quote



I would have thought that would have gone without saying ?]


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Post: #12   PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:42 pm Reply with quote
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madmum wrote:
Would be good if could go to doc at Lito instead of sitting hours at hospital. Guess you cant register with both.
Dont think I could have op at Lito with GESY using S1 or even if pay for GESY it sounds too good to be true


If you have a private doctor they follow through with your treatment if you go to a private clinic. If you opt for hospital then the doctors there of course will take over
I don't think the waiting time will necessarily be less .Don't forget many more will be using the up until now " private" facilities "
Personally I prefer hospital to private when it comes to surgery .
Please remember I am just repeating things as they were explained to me and as with all things , changes will likely occur .
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Post: #13   PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:57 am Reply with quote
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Basically its all speculation, all ifs, buts and maybes, spoke to my private doctor, as to whether he is signing up, and he is still undecided, he also said, its a long way off being operational, so I think its best to sit backand wait , until the authorities themselves know what will happen.

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Post: #14   PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:10 am Reply with quote
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scottie wrote:

If you have a private doctor they follow through with your treatment if you go to a private clinic. If you opt for hospital then the doctors there of course will take over

What is the difference between a hospital and a clinic? Sorry, but as a non-native speaker Ive thought these to be the same.
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Post: #15   PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:36 am Reply with quote
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Blossom wrote:
Basically its all speculation, all ifs, buts and maybes, spoke to my private doctor, as to whether he is signing up, and he is still undecided, he also said, its a long way off being operational, so I think its best to sit backand wait , until the authorities themselves know what will happen.



I do hope you are wrong as it is due to start June 1st.
My private doctor told me the exact opposite to yours in detail but as you say. Wait and see
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Post: #16   PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:40 am Reply with quote
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Anne Randle wrote:
Biilibob kindly posted the following info that was provided by the FCO:-

It has been confirmed that if you complete a tax return in Cyprus, you will have to pay healthcare contributions as set out by the Cypriot authorities. The contributions apply to everyone who pays there tax in Cyprus, including UK nationals.

Regarding the continued validity of the S1 form, the Cypriot government have made a positive announcement. People with S1 certificates will be able to access the same healthcare cover as they currently enjoy for an interim period of several months. At the end of the interim period (the precise length will need be confirmed soon) UK and Cyprus will seek a longer-term bilateral agreement to secure reciprocal healthcare cover for Britons in Cyprus and Cypriots in the UK.


The Cypriot government have since said they will have to follow EU directives on the matter . Let's hope the EU agree to it
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Post: #17   PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:42 am Reply with quote
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jeba wrote:
scottie wrote:

If you have a private doctor they follow through with your treatment if you go to a private clinic. If you opt for hospital then the doctors there of course will take over

What is the difference between a hospital and a clinic? Sorry, but as a non-native speaker Ive thought these to be the same.


As in most countries a clinic is usually privately owned and a hospital is run by the State
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Post: #18   PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:51 am Reply with quote
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Re difference between a hospital and a clinic , I have always thought a hospital has beds , an a&e department and staffed 24/7 . Whereas to me a clinic does not have beds and is only staffed 8 to 5 mon to fri.
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Post: #19   PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:07 am Reply with quote
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mac69 wrote:
Re difference between a hospital and a clinic , I have always thought a hospital has beds , an a&e department and staffed 24/7 . WBhereas to me a clinic does not have beds and is only staffed 8 to 5 mon to fri.


I've been an in patient in 3 private clinics 2 in the UK and one here and yes , they did provide beds lol
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Post: #20   PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:17 am Reply with quote
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Regarding the continued validity of the S1 form, the Cypriot government have made a positive announcement. People with S1 certificates will be able to access the same healthcare cover as they currently enjoy for an interim period of several months. At the end of the interim period (the precise length will need be confirmed soon) UK and Cyprus will seek a longer-term bilateral agreement to secure reciprocal healthcare cover for Britons in Cyprus and Cypriots in the UK.


Sounds reasonable since there was a similar agreement in place, when the UK was an EU member and Cyprus was not, allowing Cypriots to get treatment in the UK...

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