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Post: #1   PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:17 pm Reply with quote
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This is why I hate this EU oligarchy............

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Post: #2   PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:54 pm Reply with quote
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Nothing whatsoever to do with the EU. GRECO is an independent body with 49 members with no legislative mandate. It can make only recommendations to the Council of Europe, with 47 member-states, which, obviously, cannot legislate, as it is a judiciary body, running the European Court of Human Rights, inter alia.

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devil wrote:
Nothing whatsoever to do with the EU. GRECO is an independent body with 49 members with no legislative mandate. It can make only recommendations to the Council of Europe, with 47 member-states, which, obviously, cannot legislate, as it is a judiciary body, running the European Court of Human Rights, inter alia.


and that's why I hate some remainers attitudes.

Google what is GRECO?

The Group of States against Corruption (GRECO) was established in 1999 by the Council of Europe to monitor States’ compliance with the organisation’s anti-corruption standards.

GRECO’s objective is to improve the capacity of its members to fight corruption by monitoring their compliance with Council of Europe anti-corruption standards through a dynamic process of mutual evaluation and peer pressure. It helps to identify deficiencies in national anti-corruption policies, prompting the necessary legislative, institutional and practical reforms. GRECO also provides a platform for the sharing of best practice in the prevention and detection of corruption.

Membership in GRECO, which is an enlarged agreement, is not limited to Council of Europe member States. Any State which took part in the elaboration of the enlarged partial agreement, may join by notifying the Secretary General of the Council of Europe. Moreover, any State which becomes Party to the Criminal or Civil Law Conventions on Corruption automatically accedes to GRECO and its evaluation procedures. Currently, GRECO comprises 49 member States (48 European States and the United States of America).

The functioning of GRECO is governed by its Statute and Rules of Procedure. Each member State appoints up to two representatives who participate in GRECO plenary meetings with a right to vote; each member also provides GRECO with a list of experts available for taking part in GRECO’s evaluations. Other Council of Europe bodies may also appoint representatives (e.g. the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe). GRECO has granted observer status to the Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) and the United Nations – represented by the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC). GRECO elects its President, Vice-President and members of its Bureau who play an important role in designing GRECO’s work programme and supervising the evaluation procedures.

GRECO’s Statutory Committee is composed of representatives on the Committee of Ministers of member States which have joined GRECO and of representatives specifically designated by other members of GRECO. It is competent for adopting GRECO’s budget. It is also empowered to issue a public statement if it considers that a member takes insufficient action in respect of the recommendations addressed to it.

GRECO’s Statute defines a master-type procedure, which can be adapted to the different legal instruments under review (see “How does GRECO work”).

GRECO, which has its seat in Strasbourg, is assisted by a Secretariat, headed by an Executive Secretary, provided by the Secretary General of the Council of Europe.

If it walks like a duck etc etc etc...............................
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Post: #4   PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:04 pm Reply with quote
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bubblechris wrote:
and that's why I hate some remainers attitudes.


From your cut & paste:
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to improve the capacity of its members to fight corruption by monitoring their compliance with Council of Europe anti-corruption standards through a dynamic process of mutual evaluation and peer pressure.


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is not limited to Council of Europe member States


So it goes to the point you are trying to make - that they have done nothing
which is incorrect - they have done what their remit allows.

No ducks needed Wink

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bubblechris wrote:
devil wrote:
Nothing whatsoever to do with the EU. GRECO is an independent body with 49 members with no legislative mandate. It can make only recommendations to the Council of Europe, with 47 member-states, which, obviously, cannot legislate, as it is a judiciary body, running the European Court of Human Rights, inter alia.


and that's why I hate some remainers attitudes.

Google what is GRECO?

The Group of States against Corruption (GRECO) was established in 1999 by the Council of Europe to monitor States’ compliance with the organisation’s anti-corruption standards.

GRECO’s objective is to improve the capacity of its members to fight corruption by monitoring their compliance with Council of Europe anti-corruption standards through a dynamic process of mutual evaluation and peer pressure. It helps to identify deficiencies in national anti-corruption policies, prompting the necessary legislative, institutional and practical reforms. GRECO also provides a platform for the sharing of best practice in the prevention and detection of corruption.

Membership in GRECO, which is an enlarged agreement, is not limited to Council of Europe member States. Any State which took part in the elaboration of the enlarged partial agreement, may join by notifying the Secretary General of the Council of Europe. Moreover, any State which becomes Party to the Criminal or Civil Law Conventions on Corruption automatically accedes to GRECO and its evaluation procedures. Currently, GRECO comprises 49 member States (48 European States and the United States of America).

The functioning of GRECO is governed by its Statute and Rules of Procedure. Each member State appoints up to two representatives who participate in GRECO plenary meetings with a right to vote; each member also provides GRECO with a list of experts available for taking part in GRECO’s evaluations. Other Council of Europe bodies may also appoint representatives (e.g. the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe). GRECO has granted observer status to the Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) and the United Nations – represented by the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC). GRECO elects its President, Vice-President and members of its Bureau who play an important role in designing GRECO’s work programme and supervising the evaluation procedures.

GRECO’s Statutory Committee is composed of representatives on the Committee of Ministers of member States which have joined GRECO and of representatives specifically designated by other members of GRECO. It is competent for adopting GRECO’s budget. It is also empowered to issue a public statement if it considers that a member takes insufficient action in respect of the recommendations addressed to it.

GRECO’s Statute defines a master-type procedure, which can be adapted to the different legal instruments under review (see “How does GRECO work”).

GRECO, which has its seat in Strasbourg, is assisted by a Secretariat, headed by an Executive Secretary, provided by the Secretary General of the Council of Europe.

If it walks like a duck etc etc etc...............................


It is still not the EU, and when/if the UK leaves the EU, it will still be a member of the Council of Europe.

That's why I hate some Brexiteers attitudes, they don't know what they are talking about.

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Post: #6   PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:36 am Reply with quote
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That's why I hate some Brexiteers attitudes, they don't know what they are talking about.

Yep spot on, god knows when and if the UK leaves the EU, nobody knew before voting to leave what would happen, and they still don't, take the vote again!

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bubblechris wrote:
This is why I hate this EU oligarchy............

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Wrong again, love the consistency though Laughing Laughing Laughing

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Post: #8   PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:25 am Reply with quote
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We don't know nobody knows however one thing looks likely is that when not if the EU imploded with the larger nations in recession we will not have to bail out the euro.

It's a busted flush what better reason to leave than that........
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bubblechris wrote:

Google what is GRECO?.......

....The Group of States against Corruption (GRECO) was established in 1999 by the Council of Europe to monitor States’ compliance with the organisation’s anti-corruption standards.

So what would you have liked them to do given that even from what you postet it seems they are only
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empowered to issue a public statement if it considers that a member takes insufficient action in respect of the recommendations addressed to it.
?

To be able to act more robustly they would need power of enforcement. Would you be prepared to give that to them (or the EU for that matter)?
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bubblechris wrote:
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You are running out of straws Chris. Wink

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Post: #11   PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 8:10 am Reply with quote
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bubblechris wrote:
We don't know nobody knows however one thing looks likely is that when not if the EU imploded with the larger nations in recession we will not have to bail out the euro.

It's a busted flush what better reason to leave than that........


Are you really as dim as you pretend? This thread has NOTHING whatsoever to do with the EU, nor with the Euro. Nor has it anything to do with the UK leaving the EU. It has everything to do with the European justice system and this is totally independent of the EU, with a different membership. The UK will fully remain in this system after Brexit. Get it?

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Post: #12   PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:42 am Reply with quote
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jeba wrote:
bubblechris wrote:

Google what is GRECO?.......

....The Group of States against Corruption (GRECO) was established in 1999 by the Council of Europe to monitor States’ compliance with the organisation’s anti-corruption standards.

So what would you have liked them to do given that even from what you postet it seems they are only
Quote:
empowered to issue a public statement if it considers that a member takes insufficient action in respect of the recommendations addressed to it.
?

To be able to act more robustly they would need power of enforcement. Would you be prepared to give that to them (or the EU for that matter)?


Yes just like I welcomed the Troika but would not let them go further than their they should ie strict guidelines.
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Post: #13   PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:44 am Reply with quote
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It is easy to see why people get misinformed. The news articles states "EU Anti-Corruption Panel Backs Off Cyprus Court."

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devil wrote:
bubblechris wrote:
We don't know nobody knows however one thing looks likely is that when not if the EU imploded with the larger nations in recession we will not have to bail out the euro.

It's a busted flush what better reason to leave than that........


Are you really as dim as you pretend? This thread has NOTHING whatsoever to do with the EU, nor with the Euro. Nor has it anything to do with the UK leaving the EU. It has everything to do with the European justice system and this is totally independent of the EU, with a different membership. The UK will fully remain in this system after Brexit. Get it?


First sentence 'The Group of States against Corruption (GRECO) was established in 1999 by the Council of Europe to monitor States’ compliance with the organisation’s anti-corruption standards.


and maybe this helps The Council of Europe is the continent's leading human rights organisation. It includes 47 member states, 28 of which are members of the European Union.

oh btw the President is none other than one Donald Tusk
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The European Council is a collective body that defines the European Union's overall political direction and priorities. It comprises the heads of state or government of the EU member states, along with the President of the European Council and the President of the European Commission.
President‎: ‎Donald Tusk Formation‎: ‎1961 (informally); 2009 (formally)
Location‎: ‎Europa building‎, ‎Brussels
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bubblechris wrote:
devil wrote:
bubblechris wrote:
We don't know nobody knows however one thing looks likely is that when not if the EU imploded with the larger nations in recession we will not have to bail out the euro.

It's a busted flush what better reason to leave than that........


Are you really as dim as you pretend? This thread has NOTHING whatsoever to do with the EU, nor with the Euro. Nor has it anything to do with the UK leaving the EU. It has everything to do with the European justice system and this is totally independent of the EU, with a different membership. The UK will fully remain in this system after Brexit. Get it?


First sentence 'The Group of States against Corruption (GRECO) was established in 1999 by the Council of Europe to monitor States’ compliance with the organisation’s anti-corruption standards.


and maybe this helps The Council of Europe is the continent's leading human rights organisation. It includes 47 member states, 28 of which are members of the European Union.

oh btw the President is none other than one Donald Tusk
Quote:
The European Council is a collective body that defines the European Union's overall political direction and priorities. It comprises the heads of state or government of the EU member states, along with the President of the European Council and the President of the European Commission.
President‎: ‎Donald Tusk Formation‎: ‎1961 (informally); 2009 (formally)
Location‎: ‎Europa building‎, ‎Brussels


But it is still not the EU!!!!!!!

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Post: #16   PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:16 pm Reply with quote
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kanebill wrote:
It is easy to see why people get misinformed. The news articles states "EU Anti-Corruption Panel Backs Off Cyprus Court."


Only if people just read headlines - the first paragraph was pretty clear.

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