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Re: Barnier says Brexit deal Realistic within eight weeks 
Post: #21   PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:16 am Reply with quote
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REUTERS LONDON 10TH September 2018 - The pound surged higher on Monday afternoon after conciliatory comments from the EU's chief Brexit negotiator Michel Barnier.
Speaking at a conference in Slovenia on Monday afternoon, Barnier said that a Brexit deal could be between six and eight weeks, calling such an outcome both "realistic" and "possible."
His words saw sterling leap to a five-week high against the dollar at over $1.30 and a one month high against the euro at 88.96p.

He's not talking about the Chequers Deal that's dead.

If you think that going from 1.1188 to 1.1231 euros to £1 is a surge then god help us Rolling Eyes Below is the exchange rate from TW this morning, quite a surge I would say Wink

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So much for the surge, still 1.10 at Nicks. Rolling Eyes

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A German Businessman's View of Brexit 
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From here in Germany, Britain’s hand in the Brexit talks looks stronger than you think

Frankfurt-based businessman Markus Krall sets out why Britain’s hand in the negotiations is much stronger than the continuity Remainers would have us believe, noting just how badly the European Commission needs a deal. He also explains how weak a position German Chancellor Angela Merkel is now in.

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Re: A German Businessman's View of Brexit 
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From here in Germany, Britain’s hand in the Brexit talks looks stronger than you think

Frankfurt-based businessman Markus Krall sets out why Britain’s hand in the negotiations is much stronger than the continuity Remainers would have us believe, noting just how badly the European Commission needs a deal. He also explains how weak a position German Chancellor Angela Merkel is now in.


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Re: A German Businessman's View of Brexit 
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From here in Germany, Britain’s hand in the Brexit talks looks stronger than you think

Frankfurt-based businessman Markus Krall sets out why Britain’s hand in the negotiations is much stronger than the continuity Remainers would have us believe, noting just how badly the European Commission needs a deal. He also explains how weak a position German Chancellor Angela Merkel is now in.


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A fair and unbiased article from Brexitcentral?

Probably not.

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Headlines from the D. Mail (with its new editor).

"Post-brexit boost for farmers" (small print, hidden away)

"Briexit disarray as they shelve Chequers plan B"

"How no deal could put your holiday to Europe at risk"

"We may have to stop building cars here, warns Jaguar boss"

Dacre would never have stood for it!

BTW, a simple question for CoP - why did you want to jeopardise the integrity of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland by voting to leave the EU?

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Brexit! - Calm Down Dear! 
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Courtesy of John Redwood MP.
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Posted: 15 Sep 2018 10:09 PM PDT

Quote. The latest round of Project Fear stories are usually re runs of past versions of the same thing. This time they are often repeated in even shriller and more apocalyptic tones, as the clock ticks down to our exit in March 2019.
Let’s deal with a few of them:

1. They said ” The UK will lose the advantage of the EU policy removing roaming charges for use of mobiles around Europe.” This was often mentioned in the Referendum campaign as one of the few examples of a positive from the EU. This week the main mobile companies confirmed they will not be imposing new roaming charges when we leave! There is enough competition in the market to keep prices down. A company like Vodafone anyway offers free roaming for non EU countries like Norway and Turkey as well as Iceland, a country which cancelled its application to join the EU. It is always wise to check your contract, as the so called EU free roaming may well have a usage limit.

2. They said ” The trade deals the EU has with other countries around the world will cease for us when we leave”. Six countries have already confirmed in an international Agreement they will continue these more favourable terms with the UK after we have left. No country who has signed an EU trade deal has said it intends to cancel it for the UK.

3. They said “There will be delays and queues at the UK ports leading to food shortages”. The UK government has made clear it is not going to impose a new range of delaying checks and procedures at our ports to hold up food we wish to buy from the continent after we have left. Why would we want to do that?

4. They said “The NHS could run out of medicines and we need to stockpile before departure”. No EU pharmaceutical company that currently supplies the NHS has said it wishes to cancel its contract the day we leave the EU! They will be legally bound to carry on supplying us. The NHS and UK port authorities have not announced any new checks or delays they wish to impose on medicines approved here for use here and imported from the continent.

5. They said (Treasury and Bank of England) that we would have a recession in the winter after voting to leave, with 800,000 job losses and a house price collapse. None of this happened, with continued economic growth, record levels of employment and a stable house market.

6. The press say the Bank is now forecasting a 35% house price fall if we just leave without a Withdrawal Agreement. This has recently been denied by the Bank, which is relief, as there is no way just leaving the EU could lead to any such house price fall.

7. Some still say airlines will not be able to fly into London after we leave. The leading continental airlines are busy selling tickets for trips into the UK after March next year, and assure those buying the tickets they will be flying.
How much more of this nonsense do we have to listen to? When will more journalists push back on these absurd stories? Unquote.

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Post: #28   PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 4:55 am Reply with quote
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"There are none so blind as those who will not see".

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Post: #29   PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 5:18 am Reply with quote
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spanner wrote:
"There are none so blind as those who will not see".


Monday’s wouldn’t be the same without Spanner’s “the week starts here” one-liner. Very Happy Wink

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Mr Tibbs wrote:
spanner wrote:
"There are none so blind as those who will not see".


Monday’s wouldn’t be the same without Spanner’s “the week starts here” one-liner. Very Happy Wink


Too busy to get on the forum at the weekends.

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spanner wrote:
Mr Tibbs wrote:
spanner wrote:
"There are none so blind as those who will not see".


Monday’s wouldn’t be the same without Spanner’s “the week starts here” one-liner. Very Happy Wink


Too busy to get on the forum at the weekends.


I used to have a job like that.

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Post: #32   PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 6:35 am Reply with quote
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Spanner. Tell us what we cannot see? We have been asking for over two years for a Remainer to spell it out to us, just one will do.

Predictions thus far about Brexit have turned out to be false, many down right lies for which some individuals/organisations will be held accountable after Brexit.

Leaving the EU will gain us our freedom - how much is that worth?
Control our borders - now that's desperately needed
Stop paying the EU vast sums of money which could be better spend in the UK
All Law is British Law, admired all over the world, the European Law is not.
Free trade with the rest of the world where the growth is. The EU's GDP declines every year.

It cannot have escaped you that most of the EU countries are rejecting the unelected Commissioners diktats, prefering to remain independent sovereign nations - how much longer will the EU last? 5-10 years at most.

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I think posts #27 & #28 are saying the same thing?
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Post: #34   PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:48 am Reply with quote
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clive of payia wrote:
Spanner. Tell us what we cannot see? We have been asking for over two years for a Remainer to spell it out to us, just one will do.

Predictions thus far about Brexit have turned out to be false, many down right lies for which some individuals/organisations will be held accountable after Brexit.

Leaving the EU will gain us our freedom - how much is that worth?
Control our borders - now that's desperately needed
Stop paying the EU vast sums of money which could be better spend in the UK
All Law is British Law, admired all over the world, the European Law is not.
Free trade with the rest of the world where the growth is. The EU's GDP declines every year.

It cannot have escaped you that most of the EU countries are rejecting the unelected Commissioners diktats, prefering to remain independent sovereign nations - how much longer will the EU last? 5-10 years at most.


Now there is a clue somewhere. Question I know!

We havn't left yet. Rolling Eyes

You keep being told that no one knows what will happen until we leave.


Besides that John Redwood has always been what you get from a needle.

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Post: #35   PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:53 am Reply with quote
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Spanner. Tell us what we cannot see? We have been asking for over two years for a Remainer to spell it out to us, just one will do.

Predictions thus far about Brexit have turned out to be false, many down right lies for which some individuals/organisations will be held accountable after Brexit.

Leaving the EU will gain us our freedom - how much is that worth?
Freedom from what, and to do what?
Control our borders - now that's desperately needed
To stop EU citizens from entering, or others?
Stop paying the EU vast sums of money which could be better spend in the UK
£350 million a week for the NHS?
All Law is British Law, admired all over the world, the European Law is not.
Is that why all the laws made by the EU are being passed into UK law before Brexit?
Free trade with the rest of the world where the growth is. The EU's GDP declines every year.
The EU's GDP has been increasing for the past 7 years.
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It cannot have escaped you that most of the EU countries are rejecting the unelected Commissioners diktats, prefering to remain independent sovereign nations - how much longer will the EU last? 5-10 years at most.


Anything else?

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Post: #36   PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:57 am Reply with quote
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spanner wrote:
clive of payia wrote:
Spanner. Tell us what we cannot see? We have been asking for over two years for a Remainer to spell it out to us, just one will do.

Predictions thus far about Brexit have turned out to be false, many down right lies for which some individuals/organisations will be held accountable after Brexit.

Leaving the EU will gain us our freedom - how much is that worth?
Freedom from what, and to do what?
Control our borders - now that's desperately needed
To stop EU citizens from entering, or others?
Stop paying the EU vast sums of money which could be better spend in the UK
£350 million a week for the NHS?
All Law is British Law, admired all over the world, the European Law is not.
Is that why all the laws made by the EU are being passed into UK law before Brexit?
Free trade with the rest of the world where the growth is. The EU's GDP declines every year.
The EU's GDP has been increasing for the past 7 years.
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It cannot have escaped you that most of the EU countries are rejecting the unelected Commissioners diktats, prefering to remain independent sovereign nations - how much longer will the EU last? 5-10 years at most.


Anything else?


Spanner, please don't confuse CoP with facts.

You could give him some more straws though. Wink

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Post: #37   PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 8:14 am Reply with quote
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clive of payia wrote:
Spanner. Tell us what we cannot see? We have been asking for over two years for a Remainer to spell it out to us, just one will do.

Predictions thus far about Brexit have turned out to be false, many down right lies for which some individuals/organisations will be held accountable after Brexit.

Leaving the EU will gain us our freedom - how much is that worth?
Control our borders - now that's desperately needed
Stop paying the EU vast sums of money which could be better spend in the UK
All Law is British Law, admired all over the world, the European Law is not.
Free trade with the rest of the world where the growth is. The EU's GDP declines every year.

It cannot have escaped you that most of the EU countries are rejecting the unelected Commissioners diktats, prefering to remain independent sovereign nations - how much longer will the EU last? 5-10 years at most.





Besides that John Redwood has always been what you get from a needle.


All the be-leavers are thinking, "Could that be an eye?" Laughing

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clive of payia wrote:
Spanner. Tell us what we cannot see? We have been asking for over two years for a Remainer to spell it out to us, just one will do.

Predictions thus far about Brexit have turned out to be false, many down right lies for which some individuals/organisations will be held accountable after Brexit.

Leaving the EU will gain us our freedom - how much is that worth?
Control our borders - now that's desperately needed
Stop paying the EU vast sums of money which could be better spend in the UK
All Law is British Law, admired all over the world, the European Law is not.
Free trade with the rest of the world where the growth is. The EU's GDP declines every year.

It cannot have escaped you that most of the EU countries are rejecting the unelected Commissioners diktats, prefering to remain independent sovereign nations - how much longer will the EU last? 5-10 years at most.


The Beano makes more sense than this "All law is British law" WTF does that even mean????

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Re: Brexit! - Calm Down Dear! 
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Courtesy of John Redwood MP.
Project Fear caricatures itself
Posted: 15 Sep 2018 10:09 PM PDT
2. They said ” The trade deals the EU has with other countries around the world will cease for us when we leave”. Six countries have already confirmed in an international Agreement they will continue these more favourable terms with the UK after we have left.


Confirmed an international agreement - I take it that would be with the
African countries that make up a small fraction of our trade and even they
want to wait to see what happens with Brexit:

"“Finally, we recognise that the affirmations set forth in this political
understanding are not intended to be legally binding and remain ‘without
prejudice’ to the technical discussions currently underway.” (Joint statement on
UK, SACU and Mozambique EPA)

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clive of payia wrote:
Spanner. Tell us what we cannot see? We have been asking for over two years for a Remainer to spell it out to us, just one will do.

Predictions thus far about Brexit have turned out to be false, many down right lies for which some individuals/organisations will be held accountable after Brexit.


ALL predictions about what will happen after the UK eventuially leaves the EU have not (as yet) proved to be true or false - no matter which side made (and continues to make) those predictions - and anybody saying this is untrue is clearly irrational, unless they're talking about the extra 350 million per week going to the NHS of course.

We may find out of Wednesday what the future holds.

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It cannot have escaped you that most of the EU countries are rejecting the unelected Commissioners diktats, prefering to remain independent sovereign nations - how much longer will the EU last? 5-10 years at most.


The unelected Commissioners can't make diktats, the're unelected.
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The European Parliament and the 28 national governments will need to find common positions by the end of the year, the Commission said. Both bodies need to back the proposal, a process that can often take up to two years.

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