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Post: #1   PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:16 pm Reply with quote
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I will say no more than ask people to Google "Joannes enlightened consciousness" and about six threads in there is one headed Blind99 Facebook.Open that up and read the article.There is a strong suggestion that he is going to remain in the Vatican as a protective measure.

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I had a peek at the Facebook page........David Icke looms large, FFS!

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so is this one, sans David Icke.

Why does a factual article lose faith when D I's name is mentioned please tell me somebody?

You can still take away the facts without dropping them like a hot potato.

http://itccs.org/2012/12/01/update-and-latest-youtube-posting-from-kevin-annett-and-the-international-common-law-court-of-justice/

In fact, this is a very serious matter indeed. It appears that the resigned Pope, when he was a bishop, ignored very real affidavits and depositions from victims of child abuse in Canada ( a la the Irish 'laundries' ) in the last 50 years.

If he leaves the protective borders of the Vatican, itself a declared independent state, above all laws which we are expected to follow, he will be arrested and face trial.

I doubt whether he, nor the current Queen Elizabeth, also named in this indictment, will ever face the consequences of their actions.
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Why does a factual article lose faith when D I's name is mentioned please tell me somebody?

You can still take away the facts without dropping them like a hot potato.

Icke comes into the same category as George Galloway, Alec Jones, Edward G Griffin, Noam Chomsky, Julian Assange and many other’s who have a media ‘image’ that paints them as a bit weird and off-beat in their views and mud sticks. There are a hundreds of these people who are ridiculed and pilloried because their thinking is not main stream even though they are often stating the obvious.

I am sure the Pope is guilty of complicity at least but, if Netanyahu, Barak, Blair, Bush and Obama can still move freely around the globe with absolutely no fear of being arrested, the Pope should be OK as by comparison his crime was only a misdemeanour, the crimes of the others are all well known.

You will often note on the forum that any post even remotely suggesting the existence of a New World Order, that the World Trade Centre bombings on 9/11 was not all that we have been led to believe or that the Banks are anything other than benevolent organisations intent only on the financial wellbeing of the Global society ........... are all treated with ridicule even though the available evidence suggests that there is some credibility in all of these so called conspiracy theories.

The messenger has an ‘image’ created in the news media that ridicules everything that comes out of his/her mouth and the ‘image’ becomes more significant than the validity of the statement. Go back in history and you will find that many of these ‘whacky conspiracy theories’ of the time in fact turned out to be true in the end. Freedom of information and the easy access to the internet makes these stories available to a much larger audience than in the past and the truth coming out is a much greater threat. How else can these people hide their crimes from The People?

As the saying applies to the sheeples .....’You can bring a horse to water but you can’t make it drink’.
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ProVox wrote:

You will often note on the forum that any post even remotely suggesting the existence of a New World Order, that the World Trade Centre bombings on 9/11 was not all that we have been led to believe or that the Banks are anything other than benevolent organisations intent only on the financial wellbeing of the Global society ........... are all treated with ridicule even though the available evidence suggests that there is some credibility in all of these so called conspiracy theories.


I haven't (as yet) seen any evidence that the 9/11 attacks were anything other that what was reported, including insider trading, Jewish employees taking a day off, 'controlled explosions' within the towers, the Pentagon was hit by a missile, aircraft weren't scrambled deliberately, etc.etc.etc.etc. that hasn't been discounted because of a more rational reason for the 'supposed' variation with the official explanation.

Nor any evidence that the banks are out to make money any way that they can. Nor do I understand that this is evidence of a 'new World Order' as suggested by Icke, Jones,

BTW, which Noam Chomsky do you mean? I only know of one, and he doesn't belong in the 'celebrated' company you mention.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noam_Chomsky

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As the saying applies to the sheeples .....’You can bring a horse to water but you can’t make it drink’.


How very, very true. Crying or Very sad

This opinion taken from the wikipedia link above
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"Gordon Farrer, the technology editor for The Age, theorized in a November 2010 column for the Sydney Morning Herald that the popularity of 9/11 conspiracy theories was a result of two main factors. One revolved around the personality traits of the theorists themselves (cynical, anxious, belief that they are free thinkers). The second revolved around the high internet search ranking 9/11 conspiracy theories receive leading to a false air of authority to the theories. Speaking of the theorists Farrer wrote that "when politicians and media don’t give them voice they feel more threatened, more suspicious, cornered, helpless; and so they go on the attack"

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Kwacka: seeing as you bought the subject up.......

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I haven't (as yet) seen any evidence that the 9/11 attacks were anything other that what was reported, including insider trading, Jewish employees taking a day off, 'controlled explosions' within the towers, the Pentagon was hit by a missile, aircraft weren't scrambled deliberately, etc.etc.etc.etc.


You are incredible; Brick wall

Have you ever seen any proof that the Pentagon WAS hit by an aircraft? Why will the US authorities not release the hundreds of videos confiscated within a couple of hours of the incident, which could show the aircraft and the impact, on the grounds of National Security? Why have the dozens of anomalies in the photos taken of the Pentagon after impact but before it collapsed, never been explained? Why did the data released of the aircrafts track, speed and height above ground, cease just a few seconds before impact? Why did ATC at the time say that the aircraft they tracked on radar could ONLY have been a military aircraft as the manoeuvres required were outside the flight envelope of a commercial airliner? How could an novice pilot with zero hours on type and who could not even fly a Cessna 172, manage to fly this aeroplane in a way even Top Gun trained pilots said they would find difficult in a military jet and would be impossible in a 757? etc, etc, etc, etc .................. and BTW, I believe that the Pentagon incident has never been investigated, it was all taken verbatim! Think

Explain, explain, explain ....................... not WHO but HOW, as the EVIDENSE says it couldn’t happen the way the authorities will have us believe?


Have you ever seen any explanation to support, the hypothesis that the Twin Towers, managed to collapse into their own footprint due to fire, something which required the simultaneous failure of ALL the support columns (49?) within a fraction of a second? Have you ever seen any explanation as to how ‘rivers of molten steel’ were seen by fire fighters flowing through the buildings BEFORE the collapse, when physical laws say that Jet fuel even burning in ideal combustion ratio’s could never attain anything like the temperature required to melt steel? Have you ever seen an explanation for the presence of unconsumed Nanothermite (a high temperature explosive/cutting agent and only available to the military) and the residues found widely distributed over the area? As this was a Crime Scene’ why was ALL the steelwork removed from the site within weeks, shipped to China and melted down, was this not destroying evidence? etc, etc, etc, etc ................... Think

Explain, explain, explain ....................... not WHO but HOW, as the EVIDENSE says it couldn’t happen the way the authorities will have us believe?


Architects and Engineers for 9/11 truth have asked for nothing more than an investigation to explain the collapse of the twin towers and WTC7, because ALL the above are proven with irrefutable evidence, expert opinion and well established rules of physics.

What really happened? Because there is a whole bunch of evidence that says that the official story appears to in contradiction with the available evidence. Unlike the main conspiracy theory that you support, the one promoted by the authorities which has never been backed by ANY evidence, these people are all well qualified and versed in mechanical engineering, structural engineering and architecture, chemistry, aviation, military explosives and demolition. There is NO CONSPIRACY just a need to get to the facts of what actually happened and that is being resisted. Mad

The US spent some $3m dollars on the 911 Commission but $30m investigating the stains on Monica Walinskey’s dress. In the 911 investigation most of the eye witness and expert evidence was never touched upon, in the second case they left no stone unturned. Shhh

Somebody is withholding the true facts, but you don’t need facts you just believe what you are expected to believe without question. Like the Gulf of Tonkin incident, that got the US into the Vietnam War, it will all come to light one day when all the conspirators are dead. Rolling Eyes

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This opinion taken from the wikipedia link above
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"Gordon Farrer, the technology editor for The Age, theorized in a November 2010 column for the Sydney Morning Herald that the popularity of 9/11 conspiracy theories was a result of two main factors. One revolved around the personality traits of the theorists themselves (cynical, anxious, belief that they are free thinkers). The second revolved around the high internet search ranking 9/11 conspiracy theories receive leading to a false air of authority to the theories. Speaking of the theorists Farrer wrote that "when politicians and media don’t give them voice they feel more threatened, more suspicious, cornered, helpless; and so they go on the attack"


His theory and his opinion and like all those that see nothing but a conspiracy he manages to miss the bit about contradicting evidence, as all these authoritarians seem to do! So, it is just another conspiracy theory? Rolling Eyes
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I have got lost on this one........Was the Pope flying one of the planes......or Perhaps in the Oval Office with Monica, or...... even the Queen and the Pope ??????????? As I say lost the Pope somewhere ..and me . Perhaps David Ike knows he says he knows a lot of things we ordinary mortals don't. Anyone got his email address ?? Rolling Eyes
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Was the Pope flying one of the planes?
...... Don’t be silly he is a Catholic ........ the hijackers were Muslims! Wink Rolling Eyes

Come on Scottie ......... the subject just drifted a bit as the credibility of the OP was questioned because it had links to a conspiracy theorist and our moderator decided to give us the benefit of his opinion on 9/11 conspiracy theory! Rolling Eyes

I think 9/11 is far more thought provoking than the Pope after all he is only a vicar with a fancy hat who is in communication with God. Maybe you should e-mail him as I am sure he would have David Icke’s e-mail address and even his telephone number? Think
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ProVox wrote:
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Was the Pope flying one of the planes?
...... Don’t be silly he is a Catholic ........ the hijackers were Muslims! Wink Rolling Eyes

Come on Scottie ......... the subject just drifted a bit as the credibility of the OP was questioned because it had links to a conspiracy theorist and our moderator decided to give us the benefit of his opinion on 9/11 conspiracy theory! Rolling Eyes

I think 9/11 is far more thought provoking than the Pope after all he is only a vicar with a fancy hat who is in communication with God. Maybe you should e-mail him as I am sure he would have David Icke’s e-mail address and even his telephone number? Think


Still does not explains what happened. to the OP. Perhaps you should both join us in the Old Wives Section . Or is it ok for some to hijack and not others ? Wink
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leaving Kwacka's and Provox's continuing forum conflict aside for a minute..........

To make it perfectly clear, Kwacka, I too am awaiting from you irrefutable evidence that proves that 9/11 was NOT a false flag operation that opened the door to the wanton invasion, flagrant disregard of human rights, humanitariasm, democracy, recognised international law.

What happened as a direct result of 9/11 was a licence to invade and kill, wanton destruction( as I recall a hospital specialising in infant and child care was the first casualty of the first Iraqui invasion), wholesale genocide, raining down of depleted uraniam bombs, gorgeously attractive chrome explosive devices which are so attractive to children and then kill and main them.

No fly zones. To us, the mere mortals who receive news that means unsuperivised killing and bombing of agricultural communities in Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Iran. All under the flat of 'potential threat'. NOTA BENE
'potential' in the dictionary is 'not yet manifest' in common parlance it means that there is yet no evidence to convince even a local magistrate thereof.

Tell me where else in history has a culprit been named on Main Stream Media within two hours of said atrocity other than in the (pre prepared) broadcasts re 9/11 from BBC/NBC/FOX - all in the pockets of global elites. Each year they meet ( Bilderberg ) to plan where they'll eugenicise the global population. There are eyewitness reports that totally and completely contradict the 'offical line'................ death threats from your own government? What further proof do you need Kwacka. I'll bet a 'dime to a dozen' that had it been YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS who had been innocent, cast in public suspicion, you would have left no stone unturned to prove their innocence. Had you had the injustice of coming up against this commission, however, you would definitely have failed as all their weapons - Main Stream Media being the most powerful - would have shot you down in flames, regardless of your innocence and 'right and truth' banner.

The U N Agenda 21 lays out in no uncertain terms which desirable parts of the world will remain the property of the UN. Who runs the UN?
Not the likes of us, oh no. Russia, China, UK, USA, oh, sorry I forgot that the US UK France Germany usually ignore the UN.................... doh!

If this weren't a 'civvie forum', I'd be asking you 'who is paying you?' to spew such propaganda underlined by the Mail/Sun/Mirror/Times/New York Times. Don't you know the same person owns all of them??????? Only sometimes does the Guardian tell the truth. Forget integrity and independent reporting, as a journalist, I know that editors meet deadlines/budgets/ and are susceptible to threats and the other.............. perrrrrleeeeeeez........................

What about the adverts for fly and bird sized drones? Just this morning we watched an immaculate presentation from a company that sings the praises of wanton and indiscriminate predatory spying and looting of the middle east/north africa in a race to plunder desirable resources - central banking nations debt free - who shared their wealth with their own populations - as opposed to the 'banking crisis nations whose sovereign treasures were on the books of the Bundesbank/ECB/BB/Goldman Sachs/Carnegie Foundation/Rockefeller Foundation. Ask any Greek today who is the enemy and they will say 'German Nazis', disguised as economists/politicians/bankers/members of the Council on Foreign Relations.............. Socialist populations will be the next targets of the global international banking cartel as they have no debt.

Have no debt, independence. We can't have that! Oh, no, the banks have to rule the world. Those non-productive leeces on society. Give me a break Kwacka!......................

London is the most exposed place a person could go for surveillance. Big brother is alive and well. OK, so you're doing nothing. Well, with today's trends leaning towards 'crime anticipation' watch out. US is also being invaded as populations wake up to the uselessness and obsolescence of bankers and politicians, well, they might decide to arm themselves against privately funded 'officers' who invade their homes and privacy and hold them without trial (a la Guantanamo) in their own states/counties.

It is a well documented - and I MEAN well documented fact that economic hitmen travel the globe in search of easily bribed royal families (Saudi/UAE) who rule their populations in a rigid and militarily backed fashion, quashing speech, public gatherings and protest. Tax free exploitation for the likes of BP/Royal Shell/Monsanto/Mcdonalds/Sodexo, I could go on.............

Knock out the current prosperity, replace it with unpayable debts...........lick your chops you international bankers.................. And the concomitent results for their populations is that they subsequently have to............... Pay for education, pay for medical, daily student riots on the streets in Brazil. Privately employed police/ armies kill them.

Unsavoury? Of course it's unsavoury. Rather watch Eastenders than acknowledge what is really going on in a lot of regions subject to the ever vigilant elite/globalist/royal/nazi families? Why respect anybody you don't know personally and for a very long time? Cos the papers/telly says so?

Wake up Brits. Do you really know who your local police force work for?
The UK is incorporated at Companies House as 'The Corporation of the United Kingdom'. Birth,death, marriage, car, house, any registration means that the Corporation of the United Kingdom actually OWNS your child, your death, your marriage, your car and your house. All you are is the registered 'USER'. Your name in capital letters is your legal persona, who is expected to comply with the 'corporation's' 'officers'.

No, the local 'bobby' no longer works for the people, but is an 'officer' of the 'corporation'.

Wake up.......
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OMG. Shocked Shocked Shocked
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Thought this was about Il Papa!

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Apologies for the response to the hijacking.

RT &PV - you can't disprove a negative.

E.g. as soon as you can prove to me that Santa Claus DOESN'T exist please present it on the 9/11 thread.[/b]

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I never dreamt that I would see on this forum such utter trash as propagated in this thread. ProVox et al. should GET REAL!. Oooops! I forgot, Dick Cheney was seen in the WTC towers, a week beforehand, personally laying explosive charges. Very Happy

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Devil:

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I never dreamt that I would see on this forum such utter trash as propagated in this thread. ProVox et al. should GET REAL!. Oooops! I forgot, Dick Cheney was seen in the WTC towers, a week beforehand, personally laying explosive charges.

I thought you claimed to be a highly qualified engineer although which discipline of engineering you are qualified in it seems almost certain in was neither in civil or mechanical engineering? Your crass comment re. Dick Cheney is pathetic, I would have expected a more rational and reasoned response.

If you want to argue your case try the 911 thread where you can avail us all of your obvious abundance of engineering knowledge.......... or have you never actually considered the engineers and architects argument which, like all engineering theory, they back with available evidence, scientifically supported physical law and real professional opinion.
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ProVox wrote:
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I thought you claimed to be a highly qualified engineer although which discipline of engineering you are qualified in it seems almost certain in was neither in civil or mechanical engineering? Your crass comment re. Dick Cheney is pathetic, I would have expected a more rational and reasoned response.


It is BECAUSE I'm an engineer that I give no credence to any of the conspiracy theories that contradict each other, anyway. As for my "crass comment", it was an attempt to take your stupid views reductio ad absurdum. You obviously assumed that it was not tongue-in-cheek.

I'll just make one remark about your earlier post. Thermite. This is NOT an explosive and never can be, because its combustion does not emit gases. The thermite reaction can occur at any time when molten aluminium is in contact with common or garden rust. There was a plethora of molten aluminium from the crashed planes and plenty of rust on the steel girders/framework/rebars of the buildings (inevitably). It is therefore not surprising that traces of thermite reaction products (a slag of aluminium oxide and iron) would be found. However, if you have ever worked with thermite, you would know that it is sheer hell to ignite. It is unlike any explosive and the thermite reaction won't start below the melting point of aluminium, so that ordinary fuses or detonators are useless to start it off. We used magnesium ribbon to start the reaction. Thermite is therefore about the last thing on earth I would use to destroy a building, especially as its effect is very local. Dynamite or similar would be, by far, easier to use and much more effective.

I have seen no evidence of "rivers of molten steel", even with local thermite reactions. The major molten metal present was aluminium alloys from the planes' structures. These have melting points well under the temperature of burning kerosene, especially with the enormous draughts produced. The steel girders that you contradictorily claim were molten in one breath and shipped to China in a second breath, would undergo phase changes at temperatures from about 300 deg C upwards, and this would cause them to be structurally weakened sufficiently that they could not support the weight of the upper floors. (A blacksmith heats a horseshoe to red heat to render it malleable under his hammer.) The videos of the collapse are exactly like what any engineer who has studied strength of materials would forecast, without any thermite to confuse the issue and the computer models, after the event, confirm this, to the letter. These have been done independently tens of times by the interested parties from all sectors.

BTW, I'm sure I saw Elvis in Larnaca a few days ago!

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The Pope ..... what has all this to do with him?

Devil, you said.............

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This (Thermite) is NOT an explosive and never can be, because its combustion does not emit gases.
I always find it pays to research before making statements! Note: the remains of NANOTHERMITE were found and Nanothermite is most definitely an explosive.
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(a slag of aluminium oxide and iron)

Does not explain the high presence of sulphur though, does it?
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you would know that it (thermite) is sheer hell to ignite
Exactly why it would have been my material of choice.( I have a theory on the how to do it!) Shhh
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Dynamite or similar would be, by far, easier to use and much more effective.
Not if you wanted to bring down a building 110 stories high into its own footprint. If you wanted to spread the buildings all over New York, then yes I would agree with you.
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The major molten metal present was aluminium alloys from the planes' structures.
The amount of aluminium present was minimal as a percentage of metallic materials. Most of it was steel. If you have ever been to an aluminium smelting plant and a steelworks you will have noted that molten aluminium and steel look different. Aluminium retains its ‘silver’ colour, whereas steel glows anything from red to almost white dependant upon temperature.
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The steel girders that you contradictorily claim were molten in one breath and shipped to China in a second breath

Your are misrepresenting facts. The columns needed to be severed not melted. A local band of Nanothermite around the column would have achieved this and, of the steel columns found in the debris and shipped off site, none of them were more than 11m long (I think it was 11m) which just happens to equate to two floors.
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could not support the weight of the upper floors

The floors were corrugated steel sheeting, supported on lattice beams tied in on one end to the main support columns and to the much lighter outer wall at the other. The sheeting was then covered with a layer of light cement. The weight was actually quite low per se. The central box section columns were sized from something like 1m square at the bottom and tapered toward the top floors. The thickness of the steel also was much thicker at the bottom than the top. There were I believe two floors in each building where this did not apply and they were floors designated to carry heavy equipment.
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The videos of the collapse are exactly like what any engineer who has studied strength of materials would forecast

In that case how do you explain the identical, symmetrical and vertical collapse of these identical towers, designed to survive impact by a fully loaded jet liner, which fell at almost free fall speed even though the impact in each case was different from the angular point of view? Any civil/structural engineer will tell you this can ONLY be possible if ALL resistance to the vertical downward movement is removed simultaneously..... i.e. the central columns, every other floor in sequence from the impact point down. If the removal of the resistance was as a result of heated columns and beams bending why did the towers not topple toward the path of least resistance, that being the most bendy side of the main central core columns?
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These have been done independently tens of times by the interested parties from all sectors.
Yes and one lot managed to show tie bolts shearing as proof that the differential expansion caused the beams to separate from the concrete. Unfortunately the difference in expansion between concrete and steel is minimal so how did they ‘prove’ this ...... they heated the steel but not the concrete .... hence differential expansion was ‘proven’..... oooop’s back to the drawing board fellahs!

BTW, I'm sure I saw Elvis in Larnaca a few days ago!

At your age maybe you should lay off the pills or is it the hard stuff, as they are obviously affecting your judgement! I don’t seem to suffer from these illusions, maybe because I led such an exemplary and puritanical lifestyle Angel .... don’t drink much, don’t smoke, don’t take pills and don’t get much of the other now!!! Wink Rolling Eyes
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Come on guys -- take this elsewhere - what about the old chap at the Vatican?

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ProVox wrote:
The Pope ..... what has all this to do with him?

Devil, you said.............

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This (Thermite) is NOT an explosive and never can be, because its combustion does not emit gases.
I always find it pays to research before making statements! Note: the remains of NANOTHERMITE were found and Nanothermite is most definitely an explosive.


You don't have a clue, do you?

Nanothermite is the same as thermite, only a lot finer. It still takes a helluva lot of heat to start the chemical reaction. If you knew the first thing about what you pretend to know by reading stupid web sites, you would know there is no sulfur in any form of thermite, nano or ordinary, which is simply a stoichiometric mixture of iron oxide (mostly III Fe aka rust) and finely divided aluminium. Nanothermite is NOT explosive and never can be, as no gases are produced.

You just don't have a clue; you listen to conspiracy theorists, totally ignoring the science. I'm not continuing this fruitless discussion as your total ignorance is displayed in nearly every one of your sentences.

BTW, I forgot to tell you that when I saw Elvis, he had just stepped out of a UFO!

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