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Posted By: spurs

What I want to know is,whos going to mop the floor :lol: Bloody rites and agonising ceremony: Devotees turn mosque floor red during mass flagellation to mourn Shiite martyr
WARNING GRAPHIC CONTENT: They pay respects to the Prophet Mohammad and his martyred grandson with the flowing of their blood
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2238211/Blood-flows-mosque-floor-Indian-Shiite-Muslims-mass-flagellation-procession.html#ixzz2DJV9TxCC



Posted By: devil

Was much practised in Christianity, too.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/8375174.stm
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/05/christians-in-philippines_n_1405551.html
Less so in the Orthodox and Protestant faiths, although there are examples of (self-)flagellation
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  • I think self-flagellation has never been encouraged in the Orthodox. Self-denial, or accepting sufferings and hardships certainly manifest themselves in the lives of the saints. Father Raphael provided a good example. I know that Elder Joseph the Hesychast used to hit himself with a cane when he felt himself tempted by passions, but the "rule" of regular self-flagellation is not part of the Orthodox Ascetic tradition.

    Quote:
  • But Calvin thought that the flagellation bit wasnít bad and decided to keep it, albeit with a twist. No longer would one self-flagellate to purify oneself, but would now do so to suppress oneís own identity in the hope that one could become a vessel for Godís will.

Similar self-flagellation is also practised by Hindus and Buddhists, as well as the Shiite Ashura.

Posted By: Bigade

And then they sit there and accept the assistance of the paramedics .... what kind of krapp is this?

Posted By: Tangutica

Relax spurs - I doubt they'll be asking you to come in and clean up after them.

Posted By: fettler

It appears to be entirely voluntary, and poses no risk to others...so...what's the problem? Cheers Alex

Posted By: journo

Exactly. Live and let live. I find most religious ritual (of any religion) very strange. Why would some Christians, for example, have themselves nailed to crosses at Easter? I also find Masonic ritual just as strange (if not more so). But hey, they are all 'believers' in their own ways and entitled to make their own choices.

Posted By: Bigade

  • fettler wrote:
    It appears to be entirely voluntary, and poses no risk to others...so...what's the problem?
    Cheers
    Alex

HIV, Hepatitis .......... no, no risk to others at all, I can see that!

Posted By: fettler

Only if you're part of it, or standing close enough with open wounds, or go licking the blood :D Alex





Posted By: Bigade

  • fettler wrote:
    Only if you're part of it, or standing close enough with open wounds, or go licking the blood :D
    Alex

or happen to be one of the paramedics that has to deal with these sick feckers

Posted By: Bigade

  • journo wrote:
    Exactly. Live and let live. I find most religious ritual (of any religion) very strange. Why would some Christians, for example, have themselves nailed to crosses at Easter?
    I also find Masonic ritual just as strange (if not more so).
    But hey, they are all 'believers' in their own ways and entitled to make their own choices.

And what would you know about such things? As I know of, there is nothing of any risk in masonic ritual anything even close to this sick schit

Posted By: badger

Isn't it wonderful, all the tolerance in the world today. :wink:

Posted By: fettler

Bigade - any paramedic who acquires anything like Hep B or AIDS from a cooperative, none-violent patient has failed to follow the prescribed procedures. Paramedics are not irresponsible halfwits risking their lives deliberately, they are trained and careful. You do them an injustice. On the other hand, all perceived risk aside, I fail to see why anybody should treat them. Let them sort it out themselves - they go into the same bag as injured drunks in A&E on Saturday nights in my opinion. But that's a totally different discussion. Cheers Alex

Posted By: Byker

If they REALLY want pain and blood they only have to ask, I'd finish it off by introducing them to the 40 virgins they dream about. :wink:

Posted By: Mr Tibbs

  • Byker wrote:
    If they REALLY want pain and blood they only have to ask, I'd finish it off by introducing them to the 40 virgins they dream about. :wink:

40! I thought it was 72! And they want me to convert? :evil:

Posted By: Kwacka

2/40/70 virgins? I wonder what 'allegorical' means? (BTW, it isn't mentioned in the Qu'ran nor the Hadiths)



Posted By: Byker

  • Mr Tibbs wrote:
    • Byker wrote:
      If they REALLY want pain and blood they only have to ask, I'd finish it off by introducing them to the 40 virgins they dream about. :wink:

    40! I thought it was 72! And they want me to convert? :evil:

Turns out you may only get 2!...
http://murteza.tumblr.com/post/21911836175/muslims-get-40-virgins-in-heaven-or-70

Posted By: journo

  • Bigade wrote:
    • journo wrote:
      Exactly. Live and let live. I find most religious ritual (of any religion) very strange. Why would some Christians, for example, have themselves nailed to crosses at Easter?
      I also find Masonic ritual just as strange (if not more so).
      But hey, they are all 'believers' in their own ways and entitled to make their own choices.

    And what would you know about such things? As I know of, there is nothing of any risk in masonic ritual anything even close to this sick schit

I know quite a lot about it actually. Not that I see the relevance of your remark however.
I'm saddened by your intolerance and lack of understanding of other cultures. I'm also rather surprised, in view of many of your comments, that you did not select the forum ID Big-ot.


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