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Posted By: greeny

how do you leave your family in uk and be happy in cyprus.The way uk going with high price of everything.crime / running a car /ect. :shock: makes you want go pack your bags leave tomorrow but the kids the granchildren how you say good bye ahhh. Jane ](*,)



Posted By: journeyman

Greeny, For me its easy, eldest lad 25 just about to leave Forces but going to South Africa, My youngest 21 at Drama school in London, Stepson 19 and he wants his Idependance. So other than having a good job's here in the Uk nowt stopping us. I have 9 sisters and 4 brothers and the sooner I can get away the better :lol: :lol: :wink: Graham

Posted By: greeny

Thats how it was 4 us oldest in london after uni doing well 2nd oldest at uni drama english doing well and 3rd doing well at school hoping go uni be teacher but Bang 2nd one has had 3 children in 11 months wow who i love and enjoy just cant pull myself away from them ahhh Jane

Posted By: journeyman

Greeny, Wow 3 in 11 months how did She manage that :roll: Please dont take this the wrong way but i thinki t must be a womans thing about kids and Grandkids,not always I know but mostly. I have a Grandaughter whom I do not see, but the Worlds getting smaller and the Uk only about 4-1/2 hrs flight away so not that far really. Graham

Posted By: greeny

It was she and must say does good job with 3 so young. :D Jane

Posted By: Elizavet

Jane. Take them all with you :lol: x

Posted By: greeny

hi Liz wished i could :? How you and your new home :D Jane

Posted By: michele

the grass is not always greener ..theres good things about both countries and if you can afford to keep property in both countries you would be fine and live so many months in each..personally you could get as stuck in cyprus as you could in uk as at least it is easier and cheaperto travel from uk





Posted By: Elizavet

  • greeny wrote:
    hi Liz wished i could :? How you and your new home :D Jane

Just being built, when are you over next, we should meet up for a drink,we are over next week and Sharon comes over the last week with the kids ( and the new baby) she will be 10 weeks when they come over, good job we kept the travel cot, you can always borrow it . :lol:
The kids love Cyprus and missed Easter this year as Sharon could not fly, I am sure if you move you would see a lot of them .
Our friends have lots of family visits, now they get there grandchildren visiting with their children .
They never stop all summer and are glad when the winter comes so as they can get a rest :lol:

Posted By: greeny

Hi Liz not out till sep 18 days of relax only me john :D if your there then love to meet up with you :D Jane

Posted By: brian16

  • greeny wrote:
    how do you leave your family in uk and be happy in cyprus.The way uk going with high price of everything.crime / running a car /ect. :shock: makes you want go pack your bags leave tomorrow but the kids the granchildren how you say good bye ahhh. Jane ](*,)

The way things are at the moment in the UK, you don't .....simple a that!
If you are considering moving to Cyprus to work, then forget it my friends, it ain't going to happen!
The thing is that UK property is decreasing in value whilst at the same time the over-enthusiastic developers still increase their prices!!!!!

Posted By: kipper889

Brian wrote:
The way things are at the moment in the UK, you don't .....simple a that!
If you are considering moving to Cyprus to work, then forget it my friends, it ain't going to happen!
The thing is that UK property is decreasing in value whilst at the same time the over-enthusiastic developers still increase their prices!!!!!

How you haven't hung yourself by now is a mystery to me. :?
Do you have anything positive to say on any subject?
I may be wrong, but I don't think Jane is looking for work and she already has her own place.
Ruth

Posted By: carol

Ruth, :Well Said. :D Brian, Rumour has it that you were sacked by the Good Samaritans because you depressed them more :? :? :?

Posted By: paul1978

can always rely on positives from some of you - why am i moving? its simple................... look after number one and family, parents etc dont expect you to sit back and wait for them to die before you can fulfil dreams

Posted By: Elizavet

  • greeny wrote:
    Hi Liz not out till sep 18 days of relax only me john :D if your there then love to meet up with you :D Jane

We are going on Friday for 18 days, so we will miss you, never mind maybe neaxt time, :) the peace will be shattered for the last 5 days when the gang arrive, but at least in Cyprus the weather is guaranteed and they will spend all day on the beach. Then they are so tired they will sleep all night, :lol: :lol:



Posted By: Tina Torment

Both our babies are now living with their fiances and settled so although at the planning stage of coming to Cyprus there were plenty of promises that they were definitly joining us.....they got all loved up and stayed in the UK lol! I'm happy that they're happy but do miss them. However, when they visit for just 1 week and I pick the clothes up off the floor, clean up their dirty dishes, clean the bathroom and basically resume the roll of maid, chef and chauffeur.....I have to admit I love the peace and rest when they go home all tanned and happy. (Did I really train them to be so sloppy??? :shock: ) We'll always be here for their trials and tribulations and they know they always have a bolt hole here with us. We're settled, their settled....how could I selfishly wish for anything more?

Posted By: chuckie

Hi Elizabeth, Please come to our coffee morning on Thursdays. At least you can offer advice, speak your mind, and no-one will jump down your throat!! Hope to see you again soon. Carol

Posted By: DAC

Hi, For once I have to agree a little bit with Paul1978 Tough Subject, but can be made a little easier, when you take into account the fact that some 95% of the people that you come across in life, friends, colleagues etc are full of Sh-t anyway. Your real friends and close family will always come and visit you, just as you will always keep in touch and visit them. As for the rest, well they are just a bunch of 'Wannabe's' that Talk the Talk, but never 'Walk the Walk'. So why worry, as they don't worry or think about you, unless they want something. Well, that's my outlook.

Posted By: Jan

Jane I think it gets a little easier to leave perhaps once the grandchildren are at school full time. When we were living in the Middle East I used to come home for all August to be with the children and also at Christmas and New Year times. Now we live in the UK more or less full time I do not see that much more of the children during term times since they are at school and at weekends these days they have football, swimming, rugby, ballet and so on and so are busy. Hubby just taken Jacob to football now whilst our Vicky does the Run for Life Race. Perhaps then you will feel more like making the move. Never easy. Jan

Posted By: Elizavet

  • chuckie wrote:
    Hi Elizabeth,
    Please come to our coffee morning on Thursdays.
    At least you can offer advice, speak your mind, and no-one will jump down your throat!!
    Hope to see you again soon.
    Carol

I will it would be nice to see all you lovley ladies again. Is it still around 10.30am.
I spoke to Jinty last night but forgot to ask if she had made it to the coffee morning yet, they arrived last week for 6 months 8) I am so jealous :lol:
Jane,
How about a few months at a time like Jinty, then you can gradually wean yourselves of the granchildren :wink: :lol:
I can relate to what Jan said , the granchildren grow up and have so many activites these days its hard for ours to fit a visit to us in.Between, football, swimming, riding, tennis lessons, dance lessons, and not forgetting all the weekly parties.
I don't know how mothers cope these days its non stop. :lol:

Posted By: clive of payia

We decided that it's our time now. We brought the kids up and made many sacrifices for them so that they both had good educations and good jobs - job done as far as we are concerned. We've been in Cyprus now for six years. No thoughts of returning to the UK at all. If you have any doubts at all about leaving the kids and/or the grandchildren - don't come to Cyprus you may be very misrable. Also helps if you have been in the armed forces or worked overseas before - you will have some idea of what to expect. Cyprus is not the UK thank God. Be happy..........

Posted By: chuckie

Hi again Elizabeth, Yes Jinty did make it last week. I didn't realise she's here for 6 months, lucky girl. And Yes, it's still 10.30 sometimes we don't leave until 12.30 Because it's so hot we sit inside with the air con on. It defeats its purpose 'cos the door has to stay open!! We found it was too hot to stay outside, and us my husband says - our tongues get sunburnt !! Carol Jane, I remember my brother in law some years ago saying when we thinking of moving to make sure we both wanted the move otherwise it wouldn't work. We moved to Cyprus 18 months ago along with my son who took many months to find regular work. He's now fine and settled but if he wanted to return to the UK i'd be devastated. There'd be nothing I could do about it except remind him of why we all wanted to leave in the first place!! Carol



Posted By: taffs well

this is one thing that i am dreading really. wish they would all pack up and come with me . the youngest is so thats ok. oh well i will cross that bridge when i come to it :(

Posted By: greeny

Thanks for all yor replys helps im 50/50 ahhhh johns 85/15 for cyp :? Jane

Posted By: brian16

  • kipper889 wrote:
    Brian wrote:
    The way things are at the moment in the UK, you don't .....simple a that!
    If you are considering moving to Cyprus to work, then forget it my friends, it ain't going to happen!
    The thing is that UK property is decreasing in value whilst at the same time the over-enthusiastic developers still increase their prices!!!!!

    How you haven't hung yourself by now is a mystery to me. :?
    Do you have anything positive to say on any subject?
    I may be wrong, but I don't think Jane is looking for work and she already has her own place.
    Ruth

If Jane is going to Cyprus to retire then she should be OK but I got the impression she was under retirement age.
I will continue to stand by my opinion that Cyprus is not the place to work or to take children from the UK, you might think it's negative and I guess it is, but it's also very realistic.

Posted By: Buddy

Jane, It's one of the hardest things I've had to do. I miss my son everyday but he has his life now and we have ours. He was ready to leave home which made the decision for us to move. I do have down days when I would love to pop round and see my mum, family and friends but that's normal I would have thought. Michael came over a few weeks ago with his girlfriend and it was fantastic to have him here. We spent all the time together, took time out from work and had a holiday, beach everyday, bbq's going ojt to eat. Hard saying goodbye again but not as bad as I thought it would be. Like Tina said it's nice not having to pick up after him again, lol. Must have used the same training method Tina. :lol: Don't forget it's doesn't cost a lot to phone people, get a webcam and of course email. We are lucky that we live in a world now that has these facilites. Imagine years ago when it was just letters that took an age to get anywhere. We don't regret for a second moving over here. Sue

Posted By: brian16

  • greeny wrote:
    how do you leave your family in uk and be happy in cyprus.The way uk going with high price of everything.crime / running a car /ect. :shock: makes you want go pack your bags leave tomorrow but the kids the granchildren how you say good bye ahhh. Jane ](*,)

At the end of the day, it's all about priorities. Which is most important to YOU as a person..........family or a bit of sunshine?
Only you can answer that, the opinions of others mean nothing.

Posted By: Andrew Brooks

  • brian16 wrote:
    • greeny wrote:
      how do you leave your family in uk and be happy in cyprus.The way uk going with high price of everything.crime / running a car /ect. :shock: makes you want go pack your bags leave tomorrow but the kids the granchildren how you say good bye ahhh. Jane ](*,)

    At the end of the day, it's all about priorities. Which is most important to YOU as a person..........family or a bit of sunshine?
    Only you can answer that, the opinions of others mean nothing.

Anyone who thinks it's as basic as a choice between 'family or a bit of sunshine', has limitations of their own making, IMO.

Posted By: Buddy

Totally agree with you Andrew. Brian16 very shallow comment. Sue



Posted By: brian16

Thanks for your comments, Sue and Andrew, and they are noted but would you please explain to me why you think my comment is shallow.

Posted By: Andrew Brooks

Because everyone is different Brian. For some, it may well appear to be a choice between 'family and a bit of sunshine'.

Posted By: Buddy

Brian16, we didn't leave our family 'for a bit of sunshine', not saying I don't like it though, lol. Anyway, for someone to come out with such a comment is in my opinion shallow. You don't know our reason for being here as you don't know a lot of peoples. Sue

Posted By: brian16

  • Buddy wrote:
    Brian16, we didn't leave our family 'for a bit of sunshine', not saying I don't like it though, lol. Anyway, for someone to come out with such a comment is in my opinion shallow. You don't know our reason for being here as you don't know a lot of peoples.
    Sue

Are you on the Witness Protection Scheme then :lol:

Posted By: brian16

  • Andrew Brooks wrote:
    Because everyone is different Brian.
    For some, it may well appear to be a choice between 'family and a bit of sunshine'.

Andrew, that hardly answers my question, if you were prepared to leave family behind in the UK, then what were your reasons for moving to Cyprus?

Posted By: Kwacka

  • brian16 wrote:
    • Andrew Brooks wrote:
      Because everyone is different Brian.
      For some, it may well appear to be a choice between 'family and a bit of sunshine'.

    Andrew, that hardly answers my question, if you were prepared to leave family behind in the UK, then what were your reasons for moving to Cyprus?

Choice. Everybody has the right to make a choice without the need to explain their reasons.
Your comment "prepared to leave family behind" implies to me and, judging by responses of others, the O/P was deserting family.
Whilst I believe that people who leave 10-12 year-old kids on their own in the house to spend a couple of weeks in the Costa Brava should have the book thrown at them, clearly the O/P was not suggesting this - rather "how do I handle the emotions I'll encounter when I move to Cyprus, when I won't see my grand-children as often".
Given that the questioner is asking about this, it may be that they have some (totally unwarranted) guilt about moving.
If that is the case hopefully they will be angry about your post - it means that they won't be accepting the guilt (again unwarranted) that you seem to be trying to heap on them. The little ones have got moms and dads to look after them.
There's always (albeit second-best) phones, webcams, and aircraft. PLUS a couple of weeks unpaid child-care while mom & dad strut their stuff in Napa. :wink:

Posted By: Andrew Brooks

  • brian16 wrote:
    • Andrew Brooks wrote:
      Because everyone is different Brian.
      For some, it may well appear to be a choice between 'family and a bit of sunshine'.

    Andrew, that hardly answers my question, if you were prepared to leave family behind in the UK, then what were your reasons for moving to Cyprus?

As I tried to explain Brian, everyone is different. The reasons I am choosing to try a life in Cyprus are my own and yes, in my decision making , I have considered children and relations remaining in England.
In my case, I am happy to make the move, albeit on a suck it and see basis to begin with.
Who knows what tomorrow may bring but one thing is for sure, and that is that I don't see it as a 'choice between family and a bit of sun'.





Posted By: brian16

I'm not trying to pile guilt on anyone. We all have our reasons for moving to Cyprus and we too left family behind. We moved for what we hoped might be a better way of life than the one we had and in our case we left a wonderful life behind so Cyprus had a lot of living up to do. We decided we'd give it 12 months and then decide yea or nay and simply decided the way of life we'd left behind was by far the better and so we returned. We didn't fail in our endeavours, we tried but it wasn't for us.........any of us! it was a joint decision to return to the UK. We feel much better living in the UK and visiting Cyprus whenever we want rather than the other way around. My own opinion is that you certainly have the edge on us where the weather's concerned but other than that I can't see any real advantages. But each to their own eh?

Posted By: Hogarth55

Hi Jane, I have just had a my first trip home, to see the Son, his lovely fiancee, my 81 year old Dad, and Daughter, who were left behind when we moved. We also have a new Grandaughter who I met for the first time, I thought it would be so hard to leave them again, but it wasn't! I needed to see them, well, most of them lol, and I'm delighted to report they are all doing just fine without me clucking around, and I came home with an easy mind, allbeit a bit miffed lol. There comes a time when you have to have your life back, and do what you want, and live where you want. I would imagine you have given as much as humanly possible to see your kids and grandkids on the right road, as I did, but hey! they will do precicely what they want, so why shouldn't you? Whatever you decide Jane, all the very best.

Posted By: Ristac

  • greeny wrote:
    how do you leave your family in uk and be happy in cyprus.The way uk going with high price of everything.crime / running a car /ect. :shock: makes you want go pack your bags leave tomorrow but the kids the granchildren how you say good bye ahhh. Jane ](*,)
Personally I would not want to have the upset of telling them so I think I would send them an SMS text message or an email once I had arrived in Cyprus..
;)
I love my family but could quite happily say goodbye tomorrow, I could bet if I had a nice villa with a pool in Cyprus I would see a lot more of them than I do now ;)

Posted By: bill

  • Ristac wrote:

    I love my family but could quite happily say goodbye tomorrow, I could bet if I had a nice villa with a pool in Cyprus I would see a lot more of them than I do now ;)

You are spot on there Ristac.
I have three sons ~ two live in Manchester and one lives in London .
Before moving to Cyprus I hardly saw the two boys and their families in Manchester due to their work commitments and also mine, plus the distance involved meant it wasn't really a "I'll nip round for 10 mins" journey .
My youngest son who lived with us decided that he would go and live with his girlfriend in her mums house prior to us moving to Cyprus and sadly we didn't see much of him afterwards ~ now considering that his new home was only 5 mins drive away from us this was a real upset for his mum ~ we were actually seeing more of the two boys in Manchester than the youngest son who only lived 5 mins away.
To be honest now we have moved to Cyprus we actually see more of the children and for longer periods too.
Just said good bye to one son, his wife and the grand kids a couple of weeks ago and now preparing for the youngest and his girlfriend to appear for their three weeks holiday soon.
I would imagine that we actually see more of them by living in Cyprus and it's for a longer period of time ~ It's actually quality time and much better than when we lived in the UK.
Very soon some of the grandchildren will be able to travel alone and I can see us hosting them for the summer holidays and probably Easter too.
So it seems that we see our children more now than we ever did before and for longer periods of time too.
Bill

Posted By: Andrew Brooks

  • bill wrote:
    • Ristac wrote:

      I love my family but could quite happily say goodbye tomorrow, I could bet if I had a nice villa with a pool in Cyprus I would see a lot more of them than I do now ;)

    You are spot on there Ristac.
    I have three sons ~ two live in Manchester and one lives in London .
    Before moving to Cyprus I hardly saw the two boys and their families in Manchester due to their work commitments and also mine, plus the distance involved meant it wasn't really a "I'll nip round for 10 mins" journey .
    My youngest son who lived with us decided that he would go and live with his girlfriend in her mums house prior to us moving to Cyprus and sadly we didn't see much of him afterwards ~ now considering that his new home was only 5 mins drive away from us this was a real upset for his mum ~ we were actually seeing more of the two boys in Manchester than the youngest son who only lived 5 mins away.
    To be honest now we have moved to Cyprus we actually see more of the children and for longer periods too.
    Just said good bye to one son, his wife and the grand kids a couple of weeks ago and now preparing for the youngest and his girlfriend to appear for their three weeks holiday soon.
    I would imagine that we actually see more of them by living in Cyprus and it's for a longer period of time ~ It's actually quality time and much better than when we lived in the UK.
    Very soon some of the grandchildren will be able to travel alone and I can see us hosting them for the summer holidays and probably Easter too.
    So it seems that we see our children more now than we ever did before and for longer periods of time too.
    Bill

Exactly.
One man's meat is another man's poison and not a simple choice between family and a bit of sun.

Posted By: Tina Torment

  • tinatorment wrote:
    Both our babies are now living with their fiances and settled so although at the planning stage of coming to Cyprus there were plenty of promises that they were definitly joining us.....they got all loved up and stayed in the UK lol! I'm happy that they're happy but do miss them.

  • brian16 wrote:
    At the end of the day, it's all about priorities. Which is most important to YOU as a person..........family or a bit of sunshine.

Wow! That's a bit insensative and harsh even for you, Brian. :shock:
Our priorities were to give our offspring a better life. However, they got loved up and it was THEIR change of priorities that made them stay in the UK. We respected their decision but it was too late for us to scrap our plans. We're here for them if they need us but you know what.....I'm proud to say that their independance has amazed me and they are now well rounded human beings to be proud of. It has done them the power of good not running to us when the going gets tough!
The bonus for us is we have web cams, phones, e-mails and texts constantly with twice yearly visits and guess what, no stressing if they're home on time or if they've paid the credit card bill! We get twice yearly visits and two weeks of quality time and my son even gives me the odd cuddle now which is a major break through for the macho boy!
Thank goodness our forefathers didn't think as you do otherwise we wouldn't had the Mayflower Pilgrims and so on. No explorers would have left home and the world would remain undiscovered lol! :lol:

Posted By: brian16

Tina, nobody takes their offspring to Cyprus for a better life, how can it be a better life when all they've got to look forward to is seasonal work in a bar or something similar. One of the reasons we returned to the UK was for that very reason, because we soon discovered there was no future for our son, at least, not the sort he has planned for himself. If we'd stayed, he would have hated us forever, do you think we could live with that? All this talk of taking kids to Cyprus for a better life is simply a smokescreen for the REAL reason, namely a life in a country with a better climate for yourselves. As I've said before, I can understand people retiring to Cyprus but not to take kids. Campbell Findlay is not renowned for agreeing with me on many topics but at least we concur on that matter. Can anyone tell me in a clear and understandable way what Cyprus has over the UK............other than it's climate? And even the climate is a matter of opinion.

Posted By: Auld Grumpy

Brian 16, Having trolled through this site for the past 10 days or so and read many of your postings, you seem hell bent on raising the debate over the rights and advantages over living in Cyprus or the UK at every oppertunity. You being on the side of the disgruntled knockers. Now to my mind you also fall into the category highlighted by Kwaka yesterday in his post about "Forum Rage". Someone who just wants to take the opposite view to the majority just to draw attention to themselves. Sad really that your life nis so empty that you amuse yourself by stirring up other people. If you have tried it and failed then it does not go to say that all others will do the same nor should you try to dissuade others from giving it a go. At the same time I cannot believe that you spend so much time on a forum about a place that you obviously don't care for. I would certainly find better things to do with my time. The majority of subscribers on here seem to get along relatively well and make good positive contributions and give solid advice. You on the other hand seem to make lots of smart a+++d remarks but say very little of any relevence to the subject matter of the forum. So in conclusion please tell me why you come here at all without the afore mentioned smart a+++d answers. Grumpy

Posted By: Tina Torment

:lol: :lol: :lol: Brian, get over yourself man lol!! My kids, I should mention are in their twenties and wouldn't have had to 'find' bar work in Cyprus as we had other plans. Not everyone has to take up bar work. Stop banging the drum that Cyprus is all bad.....it isn't although I agree it cannot appeal to everyone. You seem to have this thing that people only move over for the climate...erm....no. I don't need to explain why we moved here but I'm so glad we did. I now see my husband and we have quality time.....so different from the 24-7 days he worked, call outs etc. We do have less monthly income but we manage pretty damn well and to us it isn't about the money. It's about the stress of every day life in the UK....couldn't do that again! We wanted time with each other, and ironically, our health (mine in particular) dictated the terms. We now have what we want. Can you not be happy for some who feels that they've definitly made the right choice. After all, I'm happy you've made the right choice for your family. Am I trashing your choice....no????

Posted By: brian16

For the benefit of Auld Grumpy, I do have a right to join in discussions on this forum as I own a house in Cyprus, the only difference between you and I is that we don't live there full time. I don't know your particular circumstances but assuming you are a retired person, I would say "Good on yer!" as Cyprus is a wonderful place to retire to, I've never said otherwise, and who knows, perhaps one day when our situation allows, I too will retire (again) to Cyprus. All I would say is that truly I don't actually believe Cyprus to be a better place to live than in the UK. OK the UK has many faults, we all know that but it depends on where you live in the UK as to your quality of life. We've always chosen to live away from large cities or industrialised areas and so we look out onto green fields full of sheep and cattle. We take walks down beautiful country lanes and listen to the wildlife, the beautiful song of the blackbird etc. these are things to treasure. We may not get as much sunshine as you but we don't get the unbearable heat either, or the mosquitos. So far, Tina has been the only one to come up with a valid reason to move and that is for health reasons and yes, I can go along with that, there is certainly proof that living in a warm climate is beneficial, but again, that's all tied in with climate. We lived in Cyprus for a year and frankly we didn't care much for it, we thought it had been over-hyped. Lovely place to spend holidays, which we do once or twice a year and we're looking forward to our next one in August but as for living there, well there's just too much we'd miss about the UK. You may call me a "Cyprus knocker!" which isn't actually true AG, but I've lost count of the number of UK knockers I've seen on here.

Posted By: brian16

Tina, as you are well aware I am far too much of a gentleman to pry but your last post made me sit up and think. All I'll say on that score is that if moving to Cyprus has been beneficial for you and Archie, then great! and may it long continue! But I'll still take the Mick! :lol: :lol:

Posted By: Campbell Findlay

I have been sitting here for a few days quietly fizzing over your posts Brian16.You are not a Cyprus knocker?Read the "stuff" you have posted over the last few weeks!! You say a lot of negative stuff and then add a platitude or two just to balance the books. My wife and I moved to Cyprus for a lot of reasons - most of which have already been stated - the main one being it was time to spend something on ourselves before "the ferryman " arrived. I also entered a competition on this forum which was set up by Steve and said a lot about our reasons for coming here so I do not need to repeat myself. You have gained a Pyrrhic victory if you are happy with the fact I agree with you about bringing children to Cyprus.I think you are a wind up merchant and its a bit sad that you spend so much time on your pc/laptop -whatever. If you don't like the oppressive heat why the hell are you coming out here in the hottest month of the year when you will be looking at temperatures over 40C AND we have a drought. Campbell.

Posted By: Auld Grumpy

Sorry but I don't live in Cyprus but am considering buying there for the future. As for Britain. It's getting left farther aqnd farther behind all the time. So take off the rose tinted glasses and look at a country and economy that is virtually bankrupt except for all the taxes levied on the population. Look at the recent credit crunch if you need proof. And it aint going to get any better for a long time if ever. The day of the dollar and the pound are gone forever. The rest of the world have long memories about the arrogance shown by Britain and America and would rather trade in Euros than anything else. Do you think that this is a coincidence. Not so mate , it's sweet revenge for the growing economies of the new big boys on the block like China and India. Rest assured, they have long memories of how we treated them in the days of the empire. Grumpy

Posted By: greeny

looking at temperatures over 40C AND we have a drought. Said Campbell. :hot: I suffer lol Jane :wink:

Posted By: kipper889

Brian, You really need to take a step back and consider what and when you post 'stuff'. Many of your points are valid, but, I get the feeling that you will post either way just to stir up some fuss. Are they all from your heart/head? I think not. Ask yourself why there are many members questioning your posts. Some advice from me to you...have a couple of weeks off...have a break...come back with some genuine opinions and advice...calm down. Will you take any notice? I doubt it very much. I suspect you are enjoying all this attention. Oh dear! I have just given you more. :? See you in a couple of weeks I hope. Ruth

Posted By: brian16

Thankyou for your post Campbell and may I say it is nice to hear from you again. Don't "fizz" about my posts, they aren't personal, just my own views which may or may not coincide with yours or others. Can I just say that given your reference to the "ferryman" that it is my sincere wish he doesn't call for many a year hence. I fully respect the reasons why yourself and you good lady wife decided to make the leap, they were obviously beneficial to yourselves and I hope they remain so. Despite your opinion, I'm not looking for a Pyrrhic Victory and don't even wish to achieve one but I still have a fervent belief that after my own experience, people need to be more informed. My best wishes to you and yours, Brian.

Posted By: brian16

Sorry Campbell, I omitted one of your questions......ie why are we coming in August, the hottest month? Believe me, I wouldn't do given the choice because it's too hot and uncomfortable for us arriving from rainy Britain, but because my wife is a teacher, we are restricted to school holidays and therefore have no choice.

Posted By: brian16

  • kipper889 wrote:
    Brian,
    You really need to take a step back and consider what and when you post 'stuff'.
    Many of your points are valid, but, I get the feeling that you will post either way just to stir up some fuss. Are they all from your heart/head? I think not. Ask yourself why there are many members questioning your posts.
    Some advice from me to you...have a couple of weeks off...have a break...come back with some genuine opinions and advice...calm down.
    Will you take any notice? I doubt it very much. I suspect you are enjoying all this attention. Oh dear! I have just given you more. :?
    See you in a couple of weeks I hope.
    Ruth

Ruth, if it makes you feel better, you won't hear from me at all during the month of August then I expect it will be "Boo hoo! Brian, come back, we're missing you..............."!

Posted By: bill

  • brian16 wrote:

    Ruth, if it makes you feel better, you won't hear from me at all during the month of August then I expect it will be "Boo hoo! Brian, come back, we're missing you........ ......."!

Hmm ~ :roll:
Bill

Posted By: Elizavet

Personally I would not want to have the upset of telling them so I think I would send them an SMS text message or an email once I had arrived in Cyprus..
;)
I love my family but could quite happily say goodbye tomorrow, I could bet if I had a nice villa with a pool in Cyprus I would see a lot more of them than I do now ;)
:lol:lol:
I remember reading on one of these forums a long time ago, that a couple who were sick to death of their kids, moved to Cyprus and never told them where they were going , they just gave them a phone number for contact.
I am not sure if it was said as a joke but I could cheerfully do that sometimes when they get on my nerves. :lol: :lol:

Posted By: Tina Torment

  • brian16 wrote:
    So far, Tina has been the only one to come up with a valid reason to move and that is for health reasons .

Aww! You still love me, bless! \:D/
IMHO, the health care in Cyprus has been far superior to that received in the UK. Unfortunately or fortunately, they have found even more problems with my health here due to the shed load of tests they keep doing but hey.....it's all for my own good and I'm well looked after. UK doc did not afford me these tests despite my requests.
You're right Brian, climate does help to some extent (but so does the cheap wine..... used as a medicinal pain killer of course lol!) :wink:

Posted By: brian16

Tina, whether it's the climate or the wine, just you keep on getting better, ya hear?


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