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Posted By: Souvlaki101

well here we go the germans lost 2 world wars have they not learnt anything not to dictate,by forcing the deposit losses,this will pull apart the euro,contagion willspread,the sooner we break up the better and no its not difficult to revert back to the pound and the pound will be strong as before, being out of europe more deposits into banks more offshore companies and more tourists,we can allow russians ukraine tourists visa free,we can bring the price of fuel down not to be in parallel with the rest of europe,remenber also the gas is not to far away,also be scared we could lease land for a russian naval base,then what whos in charge of the med,so poker face anastiades dont be fooled,be the mouse that roared,ok its not so simple but its better than being a slave.



Posted By: mac69

Good for you , made me smile . Let's see what tomorrow brings. :wink:

Posted By: Tangutica

But no more EU money for projects? As for Russians - I am not aware they have any difficulties coming here.

Posted By: Souvlaki101

no its not a difficuly for russians but once you get rid of the visa restrictions it makes life easier and as for being slaves to eu its better not to take there money,we should run from europe empires as we know from history never last,we do need friends we have the russians also israell and the arabs we have always been on good terms and thats where the monie is not in the old west ,please everyone wake up,tourists from europe will still flock here,not worried about germans.

Posted By: DAC

Best thing Cyprus could do was say "F-ck you" and then leave the EURO Currency and wave bye, bye, to being the whore of Brussels. A devalued CypŁ would see tourist flooding into the country and with them their money. Things are not much better in the UK and if things continue the way they are, then the Conservatives will be re-elected and then the people of the UK will get their referendum and as such the UK will leave the Union and guess what, not much will ever change. The UK will become a cheaper place to trade and being the financial capital of the world, which as long as the meridian continues to run through London, nothing that the Eurocrats dictate will ever change that fact. Cyprus has more going for it out, than it does by being in, Europe.

Posted By: Tangutica

Surely the question should be WHY did Cyprus want to be in the EU club in the first place? Because they definitely DID. And were euphoric when they got in! It had been going long enough before they joined for the problems and complaints associated with it to be well aired.

Posted By: Souvlaki101

why do countries still want to join the euro,brainwashed offers of money to build roads infrastructure,we probably our love of Greece thinking that we are of the same,when dna has told us cypriots greek or turkish are the same, also military thinking that we are now under the umbrella of europe.we still have not said we dont want to be in europe but i think we can do better on our own it will take time and faith,we like mercedes and audis but we dont need them.

Posted By: DAC

  • Tangutica wrote:
    Surely the question should be WHY did Cyprus want to be in the EU club in the first place? Because they definitely DID. And were euphoric when they got in!
    It had been going long enough before they joined for the problems and complaints associated with it to be well aired.

That's simple. Much like every other banana republic that’s joined over the last decade or so, they saw it as one big fat cash cow to milk until they were fat and full. Problem is, which to be honest was never that hard to see coming, the cows udders are empty as they have been sucked dry as the grass that they graze on is no longer growing.
You can only run a Ponzi scheme (European Union) for so long before the output exceeds the input and the whole thing goes pear shaped.





Posted By: bill

  • Tangutica wrote:
    Surely the question should be WHY did Cyprus want to be in the EU club in the first place? Because they definitely DID. And were euphoric when they got in!
    It had been going long enough before they joined for the problems and complaints associated with it to be well aired.

I'm supprised u don't know the answer to that tang :shock:
Bill

Posted By: geof j

luv your take on it souvlaki :D :D :D

Posted By: romatarot

me too, souvlaki, applaud your well chosen words. we are a growing circle of like-minded souls connecting at grass roots level we do not trust speakers, we grow our own, harvest nature's generosity in season, sharing is the only way forward we all have more power than those 'nobs' who set up systems to mis-educate us and try to convince us to play their tennis matches in 'court' no and abide by 'the law', which in no way relates to real life on a tennis court. play with rackets. now yet again, the 'racket' is exposed it's on its way out and more hopefully cannabilise itself. 'economic/political/terrorist' farce is a mass psy ops that doesn't work on people who cannot be conned, we are not greedy and they can go elsewhere with their sales patter.

Posted By: spanner

  • DAC wrote:
    • Tangutica wrote:
      Surely the question should be WHY did Cyprus want to be in the EU club in the first place? Because they definitely DID. And were euphoric when they got in!
      It had been going long enough before they joined for the problems and complaints associated with it to be well aired.

    That's simple. Much like every other banana republic that’s joined over the last decade or so, they saw it as one big fat cash cow to milk until they were fat and full. Problem is, which to be honest was never that hard to see coming, the cows udders are empty as they have been sucked dry as the grass that they graze on is no longer growing.
    You can only run a Ponzi scheme (European Union) for so long before the output exceeds the input and the whole thing goes pear shaped.

Cyprus joined the EU for one, and only one, reason, and that was to have more clout against Turkey, which didn't work either.

Posted By: Tangutica

  • spanner wrote:
    • DAC wrote:
      • Tangutica wrote:
        Surely the question should be WHY did Cyprus want to be in the EU club in the first place? Because they definitely DID. And were euphoric when they got in!
        It had been going long enough before they joined for the problems and complaints associated with it to be well aired.

      That's simple. Much like every other banana republic that’s joined over the last decade or so, they saw it as one big fat cash cow to milk until they were fat and full. Problem is, which to be honest was never that hard to see coming, the cows udders are empty as they have been sucked dry as the grass that they graze on is no longer growing.
      You can only run a Ponzi scheme (European Union) for so long before the output exceeds the input and the whole thing goes pear shaped.

    Cyprus joined the EU for one, and only one, reason, and that was to have more clout against Turkey, which didn't work either.

Yes I know some who thought joining the EU meant that the EU would kick the Turkish army out of Cyprus for them. I didn't think they would form a majority though. I also know some who saw it as a way of them finally being 'joined to Greece' united through the EU. I don't 'get that' at all. But then there's a lot of stuff I 'don't get' :)

Posted By: scottie

Spanner is correct the majority voted for the EU for security reasons and like he said that did not work either .

Posted By: devil

  • scottie wrote:
    Spanner is correct the majority voted for the EU for security reasons and like he said that did not work either .

Wrong! No one voted! Cyprus is the only country that joined the EU in the last 10 years without a referendum! It was forced upon us by the politicians.



Posted By: scottie

  • devil wrote:
    • scottie wrote:
      Spanner is correct the majority voted for the EU for security reasons and like he said that did not work either .

    Wrong! No one voted! Cyprus is the only country that joined the EU in the last 10 years without a referendum! It was forced upon us by the politicians.

When I said voted I assumed that everyone knew there was no referendum . Cyprus as a whole voted for entry to the EU and I know no one who would if asked have voted against . The reaso being we thought it would bring security. Boy were we wrong !!!

Posted By: Stabilo

  • scottie wrote:
    • devil wrote:
      • scottie wrote:
        Spanner is correct the majority voted for the EU for security reasons and like he said that did not work either .

      Wrong! No one voted! Cyprus is the only country that joined the EU in the last 10 years without a referendum! It was forced upon us by the politicians.

    When I said voted I assumed that everyone knew there was no referendum . Cyprus as a whole voted for entry to the EU and I know no one who would if asked have voted against . The reaso being we thought it would bring security. Boy were we wrong !!!

Has Cyprus been invaded since it joined the EU?

Posted By: scottie

  • Stabilo wrote:
    • scottie wrote:
      • devil wrote:
        • scottie wrote:
          Spanner is correct the majority voted for the EU for security reasons and like he said that did not work either .

        Wrong! No one voted! Cyprus is the only country that joined the EU in the last 10 years without a referendum! It was forced upon us by the politicians.

      When I said voted I assumed that everyone knew there was no referendum . Cyprus as a whole voted for entry to the EU and I know no one who woud if asked have voted against . The reaso being we thought it would bring security. Boy were we wrong !!!

    Has Cyprus been invaded since it joined the EU?

It has now

Posted By: Stabilo

Cyprus brought about this 'invasion' not the EU.
The EU are simply offering terms for a much needed loan. Knowing what most of us know about Cypriot Economics and Politics would you lend them €17bn (the amount actually required) on the promise of reform?

Posted By: scottie

  • Stabilo wrote:
    Cyprus brought about this 'invasion' not the EU.
    The EU are simply offering terms for a much needed loan. Knowing what most of us know about Cypriot Economics and Politics would you lend them €17bn (the amount actually required) on the promise of reform?

No comment until I know the facts and the outcome. I refuse to speculate too much of that already

Posted By: Tangutica

Does anyone have a link that shows the EU insisted on this levy on bank accounts and that it was not something suggested by the Cyp Govt? Or at least that the DETAIL of it was not decided upon by the Cyp Govt? i.e. no let off for accounts with low balances - just the two bands?

Posted By: cansweet

Good that people are voicing their opinions, but also glad that they're only opinions. Based on what I've seen and read on this particular forum, people need lessons on greed, transparency and the truth. Greece and Cyprus (not the ordinary people) joined the EU by falsifying their a/c's to gain entry, telling barefaced lies and much, much, more of the same. The situation they're in now is not the fault of the eurozone, or the Troika, but the eurozone and the Troika are the only way they have in which to dig themselves out of the hole they're in. The corrupt politicians, lawyers, developers and accountants, are the people to start asking questions of, then the people themselves for their foolishness. The sad part is that everyone is now caught up in this mess. Now the opportunity has been given to start again, it's a stinking choice, but is there any other? Blaming the euro is easy and I'm sure the majority see it as being the elephant in the room, but if people really sit down and think properly about this, they'll see the problem is a hell of lot nearer home than they might want to admit. Blame the Eu by all means, if that makes you feel good, but it won't kill the disease, that still remains to be treated and the first dose of poison is just that, the 1st dose. Much more is needed and will be given and swallowed, whether we like it or not. Not having a go at anyone in saying this, but it's the bloody truth and the truth usually hurts.



Posted By: Stabilo

  • Tangutica wrote:
    Does anyone have a link that shows the EU insisted on this levy on bank accounts and that it was not something suggested by the Cyp Govt?
    Or at least that the DETAIL of it was not decided upon by the Cyp Govt? i.e. no let off for accounts with low balances - just the two bands?

I think all we know at this stage is that the EU decided €17bn was not sustainable so the shortfall needed to come from somewhere. In time we may know who suggested the haircut but I am guessing it was the EU because of the belief that much of the money here is dirty.
I think if the levy can be renegotiated in the next few hours to minimise the impact on the poor then it's not a bad quick fix. Levy the dirty money and the rich.

Posted By: Tangutica

  • Stabilo wrote:
    • Tangutica wrote:
      Does anyone have a link that shows the EU insisted on this levy on bank accounts and that it was not something suggested by the Cyp Govt?
      Or at least that the DETAIL of it was not decided upon by the Cyp Govt? i.e. no let off for accounts with low balances - just the two bands?

    I think all we know at this stage is that the EU decided €17bn was not sustainable so the shortfall needed to come from somewhere. In time we may know who suggested the haircut but I am guessing it was the EU because of the belief that much of the money here is dirty.
    I think if the levy can be renegotiated in the next few hours to minimise the impact on the poor then it's not a bad quick fix. Levy the dirty money and the rich.

I agree - everything I am reading at the mo says Germany wanted to honour the protection for up to 100K but that Cyp Govt and others insisted on the present decision.
I am also reading right now that the Central Bank says it is not informed that Tuesday will be a Bank Holiday and banks will open as usual?
What a mess! How unusual for cyprus!

Posted By: Stabilo

  • cansweet wrote:
    Good that people are voicing their opinions, but also glad that they're only opinions. Based on what I've seen and read on this particular forum, people need lessons on greed, transparency and the truth. Greece and Cyprus (not the ordinary people) joined the EU by falsifying their a/c's to gain entry, telling barefaced lies and much, much, more of the same. The situation they're in now is not the fault of the eurozone, or the Troika, but the eurozone and the Troika are the only way they have in which to dig themselves out of the hole they're in. The corrupt politicians, lawyers, developers and accountants, are the people to start asking questions of, then the people themselves for their foolishness. The sad part is that everyone is now caught up in this mess. Now the opportunity has been given to start again, it's a stinking choice, but is there any other? Blaming the euro is easy and I'm sure the majority see it as being the elephant in the room, but if people really sit down and think properly about this, they'll see the problem is a hell of lot nearer home than they might want to admit. Blame the Eu by all means, if that makes you feel good, but it won't kill the disease, that still remains to be treated and the first dose of poison is just that, the 1st dose. Much more is needed and will be given and swallowed, whether we like it or not. Not having a go at anyone in saying this, but it's the bloody truth and the truth usually hurts.

Well said and tax (VAT, Corporation and Income) evasion is a national pastime here.

Posted By: spanner

  • Stabilo wrote:
    • cansweet wrote:
      Good that people are voicing their opinions, but also glad that they're only opinions. Based on what I've seen and read on this particular forum, people need lessons on greed, transparency and the truth. Greece and Cyprus (not the ordinary people) joined the EU by falsifying their a/c's to gain entry, telling barefaced lies and much, much, more of the same. The situation they're in now is not the fault of the eurozone, or the Troika, but the eurozone and the Troika are the only way they have in which to dig themselves out of the hole they're in. The corrupt politicians, lawyers, developers and accountants, are the people to start asking questions of, then the people themselves for their foolishness. The sad part is that everyone is now caught up in this mess. Now the opportunity has been given to start again, it's a stinking choice, but is there any other? Blaming the euro is easy and I'm sure the majority see it as being the elephant in the room, but if people really sit down and think properly about this, they'll see the problem is a hell of lot nearer home than they might want to admit. Blame the Eu by all means, if that makes you feel good, but it won't kill the disease, that still remains to be treated and the first dose of poison is just that, the 1st dose. Much more is needed and will be given and swallowed, whether we like it or not. Not having a go at anyone in saying this, but it's the bloody truth and the truth usually hurts.

    Well said and tax (VAT, Corporation and Income) evasion is a national pastime here.

It is a national pastime everywhere! You have never paid cash in the UK for job to avoid VAT?

Posted By: Steve - SJD

  • cansweet wrote:
    Greece and Cyprus (not the ordinary people) joined the EU by falsifying their a/c's to gain entry, telling barefaced lies and much, much, more of the same.

Do you have any links to info showing the Cyprus government lied?
I know Greece did - partly assisted by was it Goldman Sachs.
Can you show how the Cyprus Govt. did it - bearing in mind that when
they joined they were net contributors to the EU.
Cheers
Steve

Posted By: Alan3

  • Tangutica wrote:
    • Stabilo wrote:
      • Tangutica wrote:
        Does anyone have a link that shows the EU insisted on this levy on bank accounts and that it was not something suggested by the Cyp Govt?
        Or at least that the DETAIL of it was not decided upon by the Cyp Govt? i.e. no let off for accounts with low balances - just the two bands?

      I think all we know at this stage is that the EU decided €17bn was not sustainable so the shortfall needed to come from somewhere. In time we may know who suggested the haircut but I am guessing it was the EU because of the belief that much of the money here is dirty.
      I think if the levy can be renegotiated in the next few hours to minimise the impact on the poor then it's not a bad quick fix. Levy the dirty money and the rich.

    I agree - everything I am reading at the mo says Germany wanted to honour the protection for up to 100K but that Cyp Govt and others insisted on the present decision.

So no-one from Germany said "No!, this is a bad idea and may cause uncertainty & panic around the world". Perhaps Angela Merkel has decided it is time for the EU to split up & Germany go it alone.

Posted By: scottie

  • Steve - SJD wrote:
    • cansweet wrote:
      Greece and Cyprus (not the ordinary people) joined the EU by falsifying their a/c's to gain entry, telling barefaced lies and much, much, more of the same.

    Do you have any links to info showing the Cyprus government lied?
    I know Greece did - partly assisted by was it Goldman Sachs.
    Can you show how the Cyprus Govt. did it - bearing in mind that when
    they joined they were net contributors to the EU.
    Cheers
    Steve

Greece did Cyprus did not .Cyprus entered with a very healthy economy hence the 1.71



Posted By: Stabilo

  • spanner wrote:
    • Stabilo wrote:
      • cansweet wrote:
        Good that people are voicing their opinions, but also glad that they're only opinions. Based on what I've seen and read on this particular forum, people need lessons on greed, transparency and the truth. Greece and Cyprus (not the ordinary people) joined the EU by falsifying their a/c's to gain entry, telling barefaced lies and much, much, more of the same. The situation they're in now is not the fault of the eurozone, or the Troika, but the eurozone and the Troika are the only way they have in which to dig themselves out of the hole they're in. The corrupt politicians, lawyers, developers and accountants, are the people to start asking questions of, then the people themselves for their foolishness. The sad part is that everyone is now caught up in this mess. Now the opportunity has been given to start again, it's a stinking choice, but is there any other? Blaming the euro is easy and I'm sure the majority see it as being the elephant in the room, but if people really sit down and think properly about this, they'll see the problem is a hell of lot nearer home than they might want to admit. Blame the Eu by all means, if that makes you feel good, but it won't kill the disease, that still remains to be treated and the first dose of poison is just that, the 1st dose. Much more is needed and will be given and swallowed, whether we like it or not. Not having a go at anyone in saying this, but it's the bloody truth and the truth usually hurts.

      Well said and tax (VAT, Corporation and Income) evasion is a national pastime here.

    It is a national pastime everywhere! You have never paid cash in the UK for job to avoid VAT?

It is NOT a national pastime in the UK. Yes there is tax evasion but not on the scale it is in Cyprus.

Posted By: Andrew Brooks

Tax evasion,particularly amongst the wealthy/professional classes is endemic to the region and one of the factors contributing to the financial crisis. Others being a bloated and inefficient public sector with high salaries and pensions. The corrupt and collapsed property industry involving the banks and the judiciary and the fatal attraction Cyprus has to all things Greek, hence the over exposure to Greek debt. Quite a toxic mix. Love Cyprus in the Autumn though.

Posted By: gibble

Joining the Euro or the ability to do so was determined primarily by political expediency and the "grand European project". Economics had little or nothing to do with it. What rules that did exist in terms of budget deficits etc were simply broken by France from the start. On another point, I have many conversations here with German friends who do seem to think Europe splitting into different tiers is a good thing. Where the UK might fit into this I don't know but they do say they want us to stay in...!

Posted By: Tangutica

Why does it always have to be somebody else's fault where Cyprus is concerned? Not all that long ago they were hailing Merkel as their best mate (when she popped in for a quick visit and had nothing good to say about the northern regime). Of course tax evasion goes on everywhere but anyone who thinks Cyprus is only as bad as the UK hasn't hear them boasting and bragging about paying no tax. I thought Greece twisted the EU arm to get Cyprus in. And I was not aware that the high rate they went into the Euro at was down to a v. healthy economy. But then the number of things I know sod all about seems to increase with every passing year!

Posted By: cansweet

  • Steve - SJD wrote:
    • cansweet wrote:
      Greece and Cyprus (not the ordinary people) joined the EU by falsifying their a/c's to gain entry, telling barefaced lies and much, much, more of the same.

    Do you have any links to info showing the Cyprus government lied?
    I know Greece did - partly assisted by was it Goldman Sachs.
    Can you show how the Cyprus Govt. did it - bearing in mind that when
    they joined they were net contributors to the EU.
    Cheers
    Just like I would need proof that Carlos The Jackal murdered his enemies and lawmakers. No Steve, I don't have the proof of it happening, but better men than I have it. Likewise with the entry of Cyprus to the EU. Then again, you could be perfectly correct and they didn't falsify anything. Are you?

Posted By: spanner

  • cansweet wrote:
    • Steve - SJD wrote:
      • cansweet wrote:
        Greece and Cyprus (not the ordinary people) joined the EU by falsifying their a/c's to gain entry, telling barefaced lies and much, much, more of the same.

      Do you have any links to info showing the Cyprus government lied?
      I know Greece did - partly assisted by was it Goldman Sachs.
      Can you show how the Cyprus Govt. did it - bearing in mind that when
      they joined they were net contributors to the EU.
      Cheers

    Just like I would need proof that Carlos The Jackal murdered his enemies and lawmakers. No Steve, I don't have the proof of it happening, but better men than I have it. Likewise with the entry of Cyprus to the EU. Then again, you could be perfectly correct and they didn't falsify anything. Are you?

Sorry, but have to agree with Steve, at that time Cyprus did not need to lie about its finances to join, unlike countries such as Italy who totally falsified there accounts to join the Euro.
PS I sorted your quotes out for you as well.

Posted By: romatarot

refreshingly honest spanner bravo, none of us are exempt from sinful and illegal behaviour no comments on past posts now all is real looking myself in the mirror.............................. conclusion - you say i'm a bitch like it's a bad thing? at least i know who i am why bleat when we know what decisions we made? we will face our futures soon enough





Posted By: DAC

  • Andrew Brooks wrote:
    Tax evasion,particularly amongst the wealthy/professional classes is endemic to the region and one of the factors contributing to the financial crisis. Others being a bloated and inefficient public sector with high salaries and pensions. The corrupt and collapsed property industry involving the banks and the judiciary and the fatal attraction Cyprus has to all things Greek, hence the over exposure to Greek debt.
    Quite a toxic mix.
    Love Cyprus in the Autumn though.

Pretty much nails it.

Posted By: mouse

  • cansweet wrote:
    Good that people are voicing their opinions, but also glad that they're only opinions. Based on what I've seen and read on this particular forum, people need lessons on greed, transparency and the truth. Greece and Cyprus (not the ordinary people) joined the EU by falsifying their a/c's to gain entry, telling barefaced lies and much, much, more of the same. The situation they're in now is not the fault of the eurozone, or the Troika, but the eurozone and the Troika are the only way they have in which to dig themselves out of the hole they're in. The corrupt politicians, lawyers, developers and accountants, are the people to start asking questions of, then the people themselves for their foolishness. The sad part is that everyone is now caught up in this mess. Now the opportunity has been given to start again, it's a stinking choice, but is there any other? Blaming the euro is easy and I'm sure the majority see it as being the elephant in the room, but if people really sit down and think properly about this, they'll see the problem is a hell of lot nearer home than they might want to admit. Blame the Eu by all means, if that makes you feel good, but it won't kill the disease, that still remains to be treated and the first dose of poison is just that, the 1st dose. Much more is needed and will be given and swallowed, whether we like it or not. Not having a go at anyone in saying this, but it's the bloody truth and the truth usually hurts.

Good post and probably right.

Posted By: DAC

  • mouse wrote:
    • cansweet wrote:
      Good that people are voicing their opinions, but also glad that they're only opinions. Based on what I've seen and read on this particular forum, people need lessons on greed, transparency and the truth. Greece and Cyprus (not the ordinary people) joined the EU by falsifying their a/c's to gain entry, telling barefaced lies and much, much, more of the same. The situation they're in now is not the fault of the eurozone, or the Troika, but the eurozone and the Troika are the only way they have in which to dig themselves out of the hole they're in. The corrupt politicians, lawyers, developers and accountants, are the people to start asking questions of, then the people themselves for their foolishness. The sad part is that everyone is now caught up in this mess. Now the opportunity has been given to start again, it's a stinking choice, but is there any other? Blaming the euro is easy and I'm sure the majority see it as being the elephant in the room, but if people really sit down and think properly about this, they'll see the problem is a hell of lot nearer home than they might want to admit. Blame the Eu by all means, if that makes you feel good, but it won't kill the disease, that still remains to be treated and the first dose of poison is just that, the 1st dose. Much more is needed and will be given and swallowed, whether we like it or not. Not having a go at anyone in saying this, but it's the bloody truth and the truth usually hurts.

    Good post and probably right.

So, what you're saying is that it's the peoples fault that the politicians and succesive governments are useless? Cause that's how it sounds to me.

Posted By: mouse

  • DAC wrote:
    • mouse wrote:
      • cansweet wrote:
        Good that people are voicing their opinions, but also glad that they're only opinions. Based on what I've seen and read on this particular forum, people need lessons on greed, transparency and the truth. Greece and Cyprus (not the ordinary people) joined the EU by falsifying their a/c's to gain entry, telling barefaced lies and much, much, more of the same. The situation they're in now is not the fault of the eurozone, or the Troika, but the eurozone and the Troika are the only way they have in which to dig themselves out of the hole they're in. The corrupt politicians, lawyers, developers and accountants, are the people to start asking questions of, then the people themselves for their foolishness. The sad part is that everyone is now caught up in this mess. Now the opportunity has been given to start again, it's a stinking choice, but is there any other? Blaming the euro is easy and I'm sure the majority see it as being the elephant in the room, but if people really sit down and think properly about this, they'll see the problem is a hell of lot nearer home than they might want to admit. Blame the Eu by all means, if that makes you feel good, but it won't kill the disease, that still remains to be treated and the first dose of poison is just that, the 1st dose. Much more is needed and will be given and swallowed, whether we like it or not. Not having a go at anyone in saying this, but it's the bloody truth and the truth usually hurts.

      Good post and probably right.

    So, what you're saying is that it's the peoples fault that the politicians and succesive governments are useless? Cause that's how it sounds to me.

No!! The corrupt Politicians, lawyers, Developers and Accountants caused the problem, most Cypriots accepted that it went on and it suited them to let it carry on, now the shit has hit the fan. So now they are saying you were party too this corruption for many years and now you have got too pay for it. The problem is, the remedy or medicine is going to affect the innocent as usual.

Posted By: Byker

  • Stabilo wrote:

    Has Cyprus been invaded since it joined the EU?

Yes....Anally, without a kiss or KY. :roll:

Posted By: DAC

  • Byker wrote:
    • Stabilo wrote:

      Has Cyprus been invaded since it joined the EU?

    Yes....Anally, without a kiss or KY. :roll:

That's funny... \:D/

Posted By: Souvlaki101

well we have roared now we are staring into the abyss

Posted By: Souvlaki101

romatarot the first steps have been taken i know you will understand, we have said no to oppresion and to be slaves

Posted By: romatarot

yes, souvlaki, they have voted no, Anastiades now headscratching - plan b/c/d/e/ nits/mice? we may be small, but we reproduce quickly, dangerous when we unite

Posted By: spanner

A synopsis of "The mouse that roared" from imdb:
    Quote:
  • An impoverished backward nation declares a war on the United States of America, hoping to lose, but things don't go according to plan.

Sounds like a plan to me!

Posted By: Jackos

Well maybe Cyprus should call this guy in to sort out the Germans he is smaller than a mouse but much stronger enjoy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z45ZkISJXU4
  • Souvlaki101 wrote:
    well here we go the germans lost 2 world wars have they not learnt anything
    not to dictate,by forcing the deposit losses,this will pull apart the euro,contagion willspread,the sooner we break up the better and no its not difficult to revert back to the pound and the pound will be strong as before,
    being out of europe more deposits into banks more offshore companies and more tourists,we can allow russians ukraine tourists visa free,we can bring the price of fuel down not to be in parallel with the rest of europe,remenber also the gas is not to far away,also be scared we could lease land for a russian naval base,then what whos in charge of the med,so poker face anastiades dont be fooled,be the mouse that roared,ok its not so simple but its better than being a slave.


Posted By: bill

  • spanner wrote:
    A synopsis of "The mouse that roared" from imdb:
      Quote:
    • An impoverished backward nation declares a war on the United States of America, hoping to lose, but things don't go according to plan.

    Sounds like a plan to me!

yes Baldrik it does indeed 'sound' like a plan
Bill -- a great black adder fan


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