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Posted By: Christo

Just so we can debate something other than Cyp/Brit bashing, and where you can buy the cheapest Baked Beans, below is a link to something that I would be interested in others opinions. http://www.blip.tv/file/1272900/ Stick with it,its interesting, whatever you believe. Chris



Posted By: fettler

Very disturbing, Chris. I'm not a conspiracy theory fan, but there are a lot of loose ends and self-contradictions, aren't there? I really don't know what to think - but I'm equally sure that somebody will tell me. Thanks for sharing. Much appreciated. Cheers Alex

Posted By: AskCy

I hit the link expecting something about baked beans...scrolled up and down several times wonder if I'd missed it !.... now re-read your post... :oops: I've seen about 4 documentries on this stuff and there is a lot that seems odd... and if any of it is to be believed, then we live in a completely different world to the one we think we live in !

Posted By: don

Chris The Germans sent crack troops into Poland who then fired shots back into German soil so as to give the Nazis their go ahead to attack Poland with th eexcuse that Poland attacked Germany and they were acting in self defence. So if that was possible then why not now, nothing shocks me anymore even the death of Princess Diana
  • Christo wrote:
    Just so we can debate something other than Cyp/Brit bashing, and where you can buy the cheapest Baked Beans, below is a link to something that I would be interested in others opinions.
    http://www.blip.tv/file/1272900/
    Stick with it,its interesting, whatever you believe.
    Chris


Posted By: pantheman

I have never beleived that a few guys had managed to out fox (for want of a better word) the greatest military machine and secret service and get close enough to do what they 'supposed' to have done on there own. Conspiracy, no I think someone is tell us porkies. As for Dianna (god bless her), I don't beleive in such coincidences. These are staged events made to look like someone else was to blame.

Posted By: Christo

Like Alex,I am not into ConspiracyTheories, (unfortunately my Son is), but these things do make you think. Have alook at this next clip..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkzfKRe0gbc Chris

Posted By: Gashead

So how were the other films showing a plane hitting the south tower doctored? Here's one of many http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kv4s3fn8jDc

Posted By: Deanna

Whoever was responsible may their souls rot in hell. And we'll never know whether it was planned by western warmongers as an excuse to invade Iraq, or by terrorists.





Posted By: Gashead

Here's another film released today of the second plane.
Link Here
One thing I do find odd is why things like this are released so late.
'911? Hey honey! Didn't we have some video footage somewhere of that plane hitting the tower?'.
Conspiracy theories evolve from human instinct because it is unacceptable to the human mind that a person/persons could be responsible for something so incredible... 911... moon landings... JFK's assassination etc

Posted By: MrsBouvier

interesting piece of film...won't get into the "I think..." this or that (the forum will erupt) but enjoyed watching a possible scenario. :clap: The forum is certainly quiet tonight Christo...they're all watching your film :lol:

Posted By: DAC

As bad and terrible as some events can be, some times it's probably best to just accept it for what it is. If you started to think about all the possibilites you'd send yourself crazy.

Posted By: Steve - SJD

  • LynSab wrote:
    What has baffled me and still does is the Plane that apparently hit the Pentagon, the damage to the Pentagon though serious never looked as if a plane had hit it as the damage was too small and never caught fire in the same way as the Towers. Still a loss of life and tragic.

Same here - I don't think that they have ever released footage of the plane
hitting the Pentagon (though stand to be corrected). What footage I have
seen looks more like a missile than a plane.
I think all in all there are still quite a lot of questions to be answered about
the whole thing but agree that thinking that some events may be
conspiracies is probably human nature.
As today is the anniversary thoughts go out to all those that got caught in
this tragic event.
Cheers
Steve

Posted By: LynSab

The Twin Tower attacks were seen live by millions not least many many thousands in New York, probably one of the first and worst attacks seen live by so many its hard to forget, and if a conspiracy at least in regard to the second plane, it would have had to involve half of New York in it.!! What has baffled me and still does is the Plane that apparently hit the Pentagon, the damage to the Pentagon though serious never looked as if a plane had hit it as the damage was too small and never caught fire in the same way as the Towers. Still a loss of life and tragic. The plane that crashed in Pittsburgh was well documented on who was on board and what they think could have happened, and the phone calls made to loved ones and even strangers and of a possible attack on the highjackers, but the one on the Pentagon has always been more of a mystery, and as its the Pentagon I suppose we will never know.

Posted By: AskCy

it also happens that "building" work had been going for months prior to the "plane hitting" the pentagon, so it was empty.... the hole wasn't high enough for the tailplane of the aircraft to have penetrated which would mean the tailplane would have to have broken off and been left outside but wasn't... close ups on the photos show that there is still paper work and similar on filing cabinets which are at the side of the actual hole which you would expect to have at least been blasted away and if not, burnt in the fireball that should have happened (considering the planes had only just set off and would be full of very explosive fuel)....

Posted By: geof j

i think it was done by terrorists, but with Govt. knowledge.THEY ALLOWED it to happen. the whole scenario has to be put into context, firstly the Twin Towers attack, which sent shock around the globe. then the use of ANTHRAX in the mail, both here, and the UK( sorry, have to question the truth of that) but it was used to emphasise terrorism then in the UK Blair concocted the 45minute syndrome of attack by Iraq,(ok not only Blair) and then the MURDER, (ahem, suicide) of DR. Kelly when he had information proving that IRAQ did not have the weqpons the West was so afraid of. it was a political concoction to westernise a HUGE oil producing area for the benefit of the west, after all, it has been seen , and proved, that North Korea actually DOES have nuclear potential, but are we invading them? why? answer=no oil!!!



Posted By: geof j

i like a debate, nobody coming back on this??

Posted By: Charnwood Fox

Some people like talking b*ll*cks, others like listening to it. Simple. (And some are gullible enough to take it seriously! :twisted: )

Posted By: Gashead

  • geof j wrote:
    i like a debate, nobody coming back on this??

Only to say again how come we're discussing one piece of film and the theory it was doctored yet there are dozens of other pieces to explain away.

Posted By: Deanna

Seems to me the whole damned world is governed by conspiratorial imperialists, some of whom try to kid us they are 'working to protect the people'. No time for any governments I'm afraid, they all work by smoke and mirrors.

Posted By: AskCy

how much oil in Ireland ? No one was interested in sorting that out ! What about Northern Cyprus ?... how long has this dragged on? (allowed to happen in the first place) You go and look at all the wars and diabollical leaderships of half the countries and no one is kicking up a stink about it... its only certain ones and those are to do with control of areas, resources like oil and stepping stones... We the public are manipulated by the media which is controlled by the government who are controlled by those really in power (and them probably by aliens :lol: ).... Iraq in our propaganda is a terrible terrible place full of evil and nasty people who are all out to kill every single person they can find (para phrazing a bit , but you get the idea)... however if you can find it somewhere there is a documentry about heavy metal music in Iraq (so its not really about wars and politics etc) which lets you see the life of a heavy metal band in Iraq... how they rehearse, where they play etc.. and the hardships of having your training room blown up, how you can't play together because one of the band lives in an area that he doesn't like travelling through etc... Its a real eye opener if you watch it and just take in whats going on - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1092007/ (this is the bands myspace page http://www.myspace.com/wwwacrassicaudas5com thats right a band from the root of all evil uses myspace !)

Posted By: Christo

And this has WHAT to do with my original posting??..... :wink:
Chris

Posted By: AskCy

I think its beans ?.. LOL :lol:



Posted By: Christo

:lol: :lol: :lol: Chris


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