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Posted By: Campbell Findlay

oNCE AGAIN,WITH THREE WEEKS TO GO UNTIL THE didn't mean to shout -beginning of the season. The harbour area is like a f*****n building site.What are the municipality thinking about - the place is dead from January until end of March!!!!! Its not rocket science. Campbell :evil:



Posted By: SBS

Whoch harbour are you talking about? Ayia Triada?

Posted By: Campbell Findlay

Sorry - my brain was way ahead of my fingers - I meant Ayia Napa.Mind you,Ayia Triada will take some sorting out as well.Forward Planning has not been invented in this part of the world. Cheers, Campbell.

Posted By: Woodrow Why?at

  • Bobbeer wrote:
    They have been working on the area since the end of the last season, sigar, sigar...

Indeed, and for most of that time there has been bugger all going on!
Passed by here several times a week, throughout the winter, and it was rare to see anybody working, and the road up from the harbour was closed for most of that time - obviously with no prior warning for vehicles coming from Nissi Avenue direction, so they had to turn round and go back!
More has happened in the last week or so, but it's certainly going to be a race against time to get it finished for the season!

Posted By: spurs

maybe a lack of financing might be a factor!

Posted By: mouse

Catch 22 though spurs, if they don't do anything, they won't have any finance coming in. But you are probably right.

Posted By: Bobbeer

They have been working on the area since the end of the last season, sigar, sigar...

Posted By: Byker

  • Campbell Findlay wrote:
    oNCE AGAIN,WITH THREE WEEKS TO GO UNTIL THE didn't mean to shout -beginning of the season. The harbour area is like a f*****n building site.What are the municipality thinking about - the place is dead from January until end of March!!!!! Its not rocket science.
    Campbell :evil:

It's an East side thing...I've just got back from Pafos, the harbourside is packed! Sorry to say but honestly, if you can get around the the mainly **** beaches, it's a far better place to holiday, and probably to live.





Posted By: Tangutica

  • Byker wrote:
    • Campbell Findlay wrote:
      oNCE AGAIN,WITH THREE WEEKS TO GO UNTIL THE didn't mean to shout -beginning of the season. The harbour area is like a f*****n building site.What are the municipality thinking about - the place is dead from January until end of March!!!!! Its not rocket science.
      Campbell :evil:

    It's an East side thing...I've just got back from Pafos, the harbourside is packed! Sorry to say but honestly, if you can get around the the mainly **** beaches, it's a far better place to holiday, and probably to live.

Drove through Finicoudes twice today and have to say it wasn't very busy at all. Apart from one or two 'popular with the locals' bars / coffee shops.
Cars still parked nose to tail down the 'new bit' of Piale - and double parked where there are bays. Odd thing is - can't see where the owners of them are? Even Militzis had only one table occupied at lunchtime.

Posted By: Campbell Findlay

Spurs, We have been here seven years now -they always leave it until the last couple of weeks - they have the finance - why the last minute? Do they hope the bad drains/bad pavements etc will just go away? Its the same with some of the hotels - there is panic painting/restoration etc. going on - For Gawds sake why!!!!!! Okay here is the contravertial bit - in a normal world you get three maybe four weeks holiday a year and the odd bank holiday.In Cyprus for many people (not all) you work from 1st. May to 31st October and thats it until 1st.May next year.If you make the most money in THE SEASON you plan for the season.Get real Ayia Napa and everywhere else. Campbell.

Posted By: Byker

  • Campbell Findlay wrote:
    Spurs,
    We have been here seven years now -they always leave it until the last couple of weeks - they have the finance - why the last minute? Do they hope the bad drains/bad pavements etc will just go away? Its the same with some of the hotels - there is panic painting/restoration etc. going on - For Gawds sake why!!!!!! Okay here is the contravertial bit - in a normal world you get three maybe four weeks holiday a year and the odd bank holiday.In Cyprus for many people (not all) you work from 1st. May to 31st October and thats it until 1st.May next year.If you make the most money in THE SEASON you plan for the season.Get real Ayia Napa and everywhere else.
    Campbell.

20 years ago Napa worked Mid-March to Mid-November, mainly with a nice class of people, around 98-99 "they", the handful of camparos who really control Napa, decided to make it the New Ibiza (that was how it was being described!), McDonalds and the fat food mob moved in around then, many family restaurants closed or changed and the disco club scene kicked off, prices went ballistic, I remember being charged CYŁ3 (€5. 10) for a 500ml bottle of water in a club in 1999, the customers who had come for years stopped coming, and the disco scene moved on to the next New Ibiza, leaving Napa grossly over developed and frankly a bit of a charmless ****-hole, where there were empty fields leading to the sea there are rows of ugly boxes that have flogged as villas, where the were orange groves and olive trees there are now empty, charmless and crumbling concrete edifices that will probably never be filled again, I have met people from parts of Europe and the Middle East who, while never having been to Napa, have talked about it's boozy, drug & sex fuelled reputation, it would probably do Cyprus as a whole a favor if the whole place was flattened, rebuilt and renamed.
Sorry about the history lesson, the point is the "camparos" are still there and suck out most of the money that still comes to Napa, so Campbell I suggest you do some homework and take your concerns to them, try the big houses above Ayia Napa Police station. Good Luck :wink:

Posted By: Campbell Findlay

Byker, Thank you for the history lesson - we were coming here on holiday twice a year in the mid/late nineties and I don't remember major road works running into the summer season.My point was the lack of forward planning that seems to be a bit of a mindset. Cheers, Campbell :wink:

Posted By: Byker

  • Campbell Findlay wrote:
    Byker,
    Thank you for the history lesson - we were coming here on holiday twice a year in the mid/late nineties and I don't remember major road works running into the summer season.My point was the lack of forward planning that seems to be a bit of a mindset.
    Cheers,
    Campbell :wink:

They did when they dug the then new water/sewer system in 96-97, parts of Ayios Mavris Street and some of the roads leading down to Nissi Avenue were dug up even in early May, I fell down an unmarked hole and was in plaster for a couple of weeks so remember it well! :lol:

Posted By: mouse

  • Campbell Findlay wrote:
    Spurs,
    We have been here seven years now -they always leave it until the last couple of weeks - they have the finance - why the last minute? Do they hope the bad drains/bad pavements etc will just go away? Its the same with some of the hotels - there is panic painting/restoration etc. going on - For Gawds sake why!!!!!! Okay here is the contravertial bit - in a normal world you get three maybe four weeks holiday a year and the odd bank holiday.In Cyprus for many people (not all) you work from 1st. May to 31st October and thats it until 1st.May next year.If you make the most money in THE SEASON you plan for the season.Get real Ayia Napa and everywhere else.
    Campbell.

You are mostly right Campbell, the hotels do leave it to the last week or so before doing improvements, but sometimes it is the fault of the Tour Operators. Most of the Tour Operators do not pay for the previous season until the end of March which leaves the hotel short of finances at the start of the season so they are always playing catch up.
No excuse for the Municipalities though as the hotels still have to pay rates and electric, water, taxes etc. on time.

Posted By: paterson

Re post 14.
Mouse, you must hear different stories to me.
Heard about so many hotels OWING millions in rates, Elect. & water.
I feel your last line has something missing, "should" pay on time?



Posted By: DAC

  • Byker wrote:
    • Campbell Findlay wrote:
      Spurs,
      We have been here seven years now -they always leave it until the last couple of weeks - they have the finance - why the last minute? Do they hope the bad drains/bad pavements etc will just go away? Its the same with some of the hotels - there is panic painting/restoration etc. going on - For Gawds sake why!!!!!! Okay here is the contravertial bit - in a normal world you get three maybe four weeks holiday a year and the odd bank holiday.In Cyprus for many people (not all) you work from 1st. May to 31st October and thats it until 1st.May next year.If you make the most money in THE SEASON you plan for the season.Get real Ayia Napa and everywhere else.
      Campbell.

    20 years ago Napa worked Mid-March to Mid-November, mainly with a nice class of people, around 98-99 "they", the handful of camparos who really control Napa, decided to make it the New Ibiza (that was how it was being described!), McDonalds and the fat food mob moved in around then, many family restaurants closed or changed and the disco club scene kicked off, prices went ballistic, I remember being charged CYŁ3 (€5. 10) for a 500ml bottle of water in a club in 1999, the customers who had come for years stopped coming, and the disco scene moved on to the next New Ibiza, leaving Napa grossly over developed and frankly a bit of a charmless ****-hole, where there were empty fields leading to the sea there are rows of ugly boxes that have flogged as villas, where the were orange groves and olive trees there are now empty, charmless and crumbling concrete edifices that will probably never be filled again, I have met people from parts of Europe and the Middle East who, while never having been to Napa, have talked about it's boozy, drug & sex fuelled reputation, it would probably do Cyprus as a whole a favor if the whole place was flattened, rebuilt and renamed.
    Sorry about the history lesson, the point is the "camparos" are still there and suck out most of the money that still comes to Napa, so Campbell I suggest you do some homework and take your concerns to them, try the big houses above Ayia Napa Police station. Good Luck :wink:

I spent 6 months in and around Napa in 99 and it was awesome lol

Posted By: mouse

  • paterson wrote:
    Re post 14.
    Mouse, you must hear different stories to me.
    Heard about so many hotels OWING millions in rates, Elect. & water.
    I feel your last line has something missing, "should" pay on time?

Whatever way, if the Tour operators do not pay till the following year, they still ain't got no money and still chasing their tails. Catch 22.
I can only go by the hotels I know in this area.

Posted By: alexincyprus

  • DAC wrote:
    • Byker wrote:
      • Campbell Findlay wrote:
        Spurs,
        We have been here seven years now -they always leave it until the last couple of weeks - they have the finance - why the last minute? Do they hope the bad drains/bad pavements etc will just go away? Its the same with some of the hotels - there is panic painting/restoration etc. going on - For Gawds sake why!!!!!! Okay here is the contravertial bit - in a normal world you get three maybe four weeks holiday a year and the odd bank holiday.In Cyprus for many people (not all) you work from 1st. May to 31st October and thats it until 1st.May next year.If you make the most money in THE SEASON you plan for the season.Get real Ayia Napa and everywhere else.
        Campbell.

      20 years ago Napa worked Mid-March to Mid-November, mainly with a nice class of people, around 98-99 "they", the handful of camparos who really control Napa, decided to make it the New Ibiza (that was how it was being described!), McDonalds and the fat food mob moved in around then, many family restaurants closed or changed and the disco club scene kicked off, prices went ballistic, I remember being charged CYŁ3 (€5. 10) for a 500ml bottle of water in a club in 1999, the customers who had come for years stopped coming, and the disco scene moved on to the next New Ibiza, leaving Napa grossly over developed and frankly a bit of a charmless ****-hole, where there were empty fields leading to the sea there are rows of ugly boxes that have flogged as villas, where the were orange groves and olive trees there are now empty, charmless and crumbling concrete edifices that will probably never be filled again, I have met people from parts of Europe and the Middle East who, while never having been to Napa, have talked about it's boozy, drug & sex fuelled reputation, it would probably do Cyprus as a whole a favor if the whole place was flattened, rebuilt and renamed.
      Sorry about the history lesson, the point is the "camparos" are still there and suck out most of the money that still comes to Napa, so Campbell I suggest you do some homework and take your concerns to them, try the big houses above Ayia Napa Police station. Good Luck :wink:

    I spent 6 months in and around Napa in 99 and it was awesome lol

Awesome definitely described my time too, I was a holiday rep here 98 to beginning of 02. Happy days :lol: :lol:

Posted By: mouse

  • alexincyprus wrote:
    • DAC wrote:
      • Byker wrote:
        • Campbell Findlay wrote:
          Spurs,
          We have been here seven years now -they always leave it until the last couple of weeks - they have the finance - why the last minute? Do they hope the bad drains/bad pavements etc will just go away? Its the same with some of the hotels - there is panic painting/restoration etc. going on - For Gawds sake why!!!!!! Okay here is the contravertial bit - in a normal world you get three maybe four weeks holiday a year and the odd bank holiday.In Cyprus for many people (not all) you work from 1st. May to 31st October and thats it until 1st.May next year.If you make the most money in THE SEASON you plan for the season.Get real Ayia Napa and everywhere else.
          Campbell.

        20 years ago Napa worked Mid-March to Mid-November, mainly with a nice class of people, around 98-99 "they", the handful of camparos who really control Napa, decided to make it the New Ibiza (that was how it was being described!), McDonalds and the fat food mob moved in around then, many family restaurants closed or changed and the disco club scene kicked off, prices went ballistic, I remember being charged CYŁ3 (€5. 10) for a 500ml bottle of water in a club in 1999, the customers who had come for years stopped coming, and the disco scene moved on to the next New Ibiza, leaving Napa grossly over developed and frankly a bit of a charmless ****-hole, where there were empty fields leading to the sea there are rows of ugly boxes that have flogged as villas, where the were orange groves and olive trees there are now empty, charmless and crumbling concrete edifices that will probably never be filled again, I have met people from parts of Europe and the Middle East who, while never having been to Napa, have talked about it's boozy, drug & sex fuelled reputation, it would probably do Cyprus as a whole a favor if the whole place was flattened, rebuilt and renamed.
        Sorry about the history lesson, the point is the "camparos" are still there and suck out most of the money that still comes to Napa, so Campbell I suggest you do some homework and take your concerns to them, try the big houses above Ayia Napa Police station. Good Luck :wink:

      I spent 6 months in and around Napa in 99 and it was awesome lol

    Awesome definitely described my time too, I was a holiday rep here 98 to beginning of 02. Happy days :lol: :lol:

Who was you a rep for Alex.

Posted By: Campbell Findlay

I give up - we are off on another tangent!!! Campbell. :roll:

Posted By: mouse

  • Campbell Findlay wrote:
    I give up - we are off on another tangent!!!
    Campbell. :roll:

Not really mate, your question has been answered with differing ideas and reasons, no doubt it will come back on track when someone else who hasn't seen this thread has their own ideas.
It is an interesting thread though, but like all good threads other discussions do come into it.
The only reason I went off in a tangent, is because I might actually know Alex from my time in the Travel trade, and the thread is still about Ayia Napa and it's problems.

Posted By: alexincyprus

First choice then the now defunct Golden Sun mouse. Summers spent in Ayia Napa and Prot and a strange winter in Limassol, but perhaps that's because it's when I met my husband :wink:



Posted By: mouse

  • alexincyprus wrote:
    First choice then the now defunct Golden Sun mouse. Summers spent in Ayia Napa and Prot and a strange winter in Limassol, but perhaps that's because it's when I met my husband :wink:

Golden Sun, you must have been rep at the Domniki in Pernera as well then.

Posted By: DAC

  • alexincyprus wrote:
    • DAC wrote:
      • Byker wrote:
        • Campbell Findlay wrote:
          Spurs,
          We have been here seven years now -they always leave it until the last couple of weeks - they have the finance - why the last minute? Do they hope the bad drains/bad pavements etc will just go away? Its the same with some of the hotels - there is panic painting/restoration etc. going on - For Gawds sake why!!!!!! Okay here is the contravertial bit - in a normal world you get three maybe four weeks holiday a year and the odd bank holiday.In Cyprus for many people (not all) you work from 1st. May to 31st October and thats it until 1st.May next year.If you make the most money in THE SEASON you plan for the season.Get real Ayia Napa and everywhere else.
          Campbell.

        20 years ago Napa worked Mid-March to Mid-November, mainly with a nice class of people, around 98-99 "they", the handful of camparos who really control Napa, decided to make it the New Ibiza (that was how it was being described!), McDonalds and the fat food mob moved in around then, many family restaurants closed or changed and the disco club scene kicked off, prices went ballistic, I remember being charged CYŁ3 (€5. 10) for a 500ml bottle of water in a club in 1999, the customers who had come for years stopped coming, and the disco scene moved on to the next New Ibiza, leaving Napa grossly over developed and frankly a bit of a charmless ****-hole, where there were empty fields leading to the sea there are rows of ugly boxes that have flogged as villas, where the were orange groves and olive trees there are now empty, charmless and crumbling concrete edifices that will probably never be filled again, I have met people from parts of Europe and the Middle East who, while never having been to Napa, have talked about it's boozy, drug & sex fuelled reputation, it would probably do Cyprus as a whole a favor if the whole place was flattened, rebuilt and renamed.
        Sorry about the history lesson, the point is the "camparos" are still there and suck out most of the money that still comes to Napa, so Campbell I suggest you do some homework and take your concerns to them, try the big houses above Ayia Napa Police station. Good Luck :wink:

      I spent 6 months in and around Napa in 99 and it was awesome lol

    Awesome definitely described my time too, I was a holiday rep here 98 to beginning of 02. Happy days :lol: :lol:

I don't recall much of it as I was very drunk. LOL

Posted By: Woodrow Why?at

  • alexincyprus wrote:
    First choice then the now defunct Golden Sun mouse. Summers spent in Ayia Napa and Prot and a strange winter in Limassol, but perhaps that's because it's when I met my husband :wink:

Alex, we stayed in a small hotel, down a side street, in Protaras (can't remember the name but the nearest bar was the 'Irresistible') in 2000, and was with Golden Sun. Could you possibly have been our Rep? :)

Posted By: alexincyprus

As DAC says, drinking played a big part in those days so my memories are all a little alcohol hazed :shock: :wink: I didn't rep Domniki but do remember the rep there during my time and obviously dropped off/collected many an airport transfer.... Woody 2000 I was in Ayia Napa with first choice, 2001 I did both resorts with Golden Sun. Shame our paths have not crossed :wink: :D

Posted By: Campbell Findlay

Okay guys - we have been down memory lane - can we get back on topic please :wink: Campbell.

Posted By: Woodrow Why?at

  • alexincyprus wrote:

    Woody 2000 I was in Ayia Napa with first choice, 2001 I did both resorts with Golden Sun. Shame our paths have not crossed :wink: :D

Still plenty of time Alex, still plenty of time! :-):-) :lol:
And I'm sure ( :?: :?: ) Steve will confirm that I'm far more pleasant in person, than I may sometimes appear on the Forum!! :wink:
Sorry Campbell, but do you really think there is much else to be said on the "topic"? :? :)

Posted By: alexincyprus

Woody I take as I find, I myself, would never win any popularity contest :wink: Apologies Campbell it's back to you. :wink:




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