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Posted By: kipper889

I know this is probably a daft question but it has bugged me for ages. How do I know when to use either 'effect' or 'affect'? I have read the thesaurus and still can't get it straight in my simple mind. :? This question has come about because I have just read Steve's post about changes to the registration where he says 'this will not effect existing members' I probably would have used affect (wrongly) but I have no idea why! Can someone explain in simple terms for a simple girl? :oops: Ruth



Posted By: Steve - SJD

Ruth - I might have it wrong I always get them mixed up and I end up speaking the sentance out loud (probably still got it wrong lol ) Now I can't edit it though when i've re-read it lol Cheers Steve

Posted By: kipper889

Hi Steve, Thanks for that but please don't shatter our illusions by telling us that you can sometimes be wrong!!! I don't believe you. :lol: I'm sure I am the one who's wrong, I just need someone to explain why. Ruth

Posted By: marion

I've always used effect as a noun, eg Cyprus has an effect on you. And affect for every other use, eg I'm affected by Cyprus. HTH, Marion

Posted By: Balconia

I think it should have been " This will not affect existing members"
Soz Steve :lol: :lol:
Where are you Mr Charnwood Fox when we need you ? :wink:

Posted By: Byker

According to Encarta:
    Quote:

  • affect or effect?
    In general use, affect is only used as a verb, whereas effect is commonly used as a noun and only in formal contexts as a verb. What causes confusion is that they have very similar pronunciations and closely related meanings. If one thing affects [acts upon] another, it has an effect on it [causes it to change]. Notice also that you can affect [cause a change in] people as well as things, but you can only effect [bring about] things such as changes: The election has affected our entire society, for it has effected major changes in the government.The bad weather has a bad effect [not affect] on him.


Posted By: kipper889

Thanks Paul for your explanation, that is what I have read and about as clear as mud!! :lol: Carol, I didn't mean to start a sibling fight!!! :) I suppose I will just keep doing what Steve does...Type it how I say it. This will not affect existing members...or There will be no effect on existing members. You see!! I just don't get it. Ruth

Posted By: Charnwood Fox

I must apolgise. I know when to use each in the correct context, but I'm blowed if I can explain it. I do hope the effect of me being unable to explain it will not affect you all too much. :roll:





Posted By: Pegs

Well done, Byker, for getting it right..:-) Shame on you, Steve, for the spelling mistake in 'sentence' - see below 'Ruth - I might have it wrong I always get them mixed up and I end up speaking the sentance out loud (probably still got it wrong lol ) Now I can't edit it though when i've re-read it lol Cheers Steve ' But at the end of the day the important thing is that we all know what the other person means to say....and the best thing about conversation, whether written or spoken, is that it is an intimate communication of thoughts,ideas and emotions - not an examination paper !!

Posted By: kipper889

Oooer Pegs, It wasn't supposed to be a thread started to criticise anyones spelling, god knows I'm the worst speller, I just simply wanted to understand when and where to use the two words in question. :lol: Give me 'There' and 'Their' and I know exactly what I'm doing, just don't understand affect and effect. Still none the wiser :? Only trying to learn that's all, perhaps i'm the proverbial 'old dog' :-k Ruth

Posted By: Charnwood Fox

This is good. One mention from me of a spelling error and i get my gonads ripped off!!! Kettle and pot syndrome. methinks! :wink:

Posted By: kipper889

That must have been painful Mark!!

Posted By: Steve - SJD

lol - I seem to be doing a few errors today ;-) ok, ok a few words I continually get wrong - mind you the number of emails/posts and pages I write a day i'm allowed a few mistakes :lol: PS Don't tell the wife - it has taken me years to convince her that I don't make mistakes - she thinks i'm always right :lol: Ruth I am still not sure :lol: Cheers Steve

Posted By: Balconia

Steve- I'm sure :wink: :wink:

Posted By: kipper889

There's another job for you steve, Can we have a chell specker when we post a message? Ruth



Posted By: Balconia

We've got one Ruth......... He's called char..... Fo. :wink: :wink: Just a bit of fun Mr Edwardes !!! :lol: :lol:

Posted By: kipper889

Carol, lol I must have missed the thread where he was officially appointed. Can you give me a pointer? :lol:

Posted By: Balconia

Ruth We all know Mark, or is it Marke? is our ' unofficial! chell specker :lol: :lol: I used to get very nervous when typing a response to one of his posts but now we all know that he is a pussy cat really :wink: :wink:

Posted By: Charnwood Fox

  • Balconia wrote:
    we all know that he is a pussy cat really :wink: :wink:

I am. Really, I am!
I don't think I could find the time to spellcheck. ONLY KIDDING :!:
By the way Carol, thanks for spelling my surname correctly. Not many do, even when it's written out for them.

Posted By: Kwacka

How about the sentence: "Effect affects affect"? 8)

Posted By: kipper889

Well Kwacka, You've really gone and done it now!!! Do you have space in your dairy (did you spot the diliberate mistake?) for an appointment for me to come and lie on your couch tomorrow? I need therapy! :lol: Ruth

Posted By: greeny

Good job i dont worrie lol :wink: Jane



Posted By: Charnwood Fox

  • kipper889 wrote:
    did you spot the diliberate mistake?

Which one was deliberate? :wink:


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